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HDDesign
10-07-2008, 09:41 PM
Ok, I am very new to InDesign so I am still trying to figure this out (I apologize in advance if my question is ridiculously stupid).
I need to design an 8.5" x 11" 8 page catalog for a client. Normally, I use Illustrator... so I just set up 4 files of 11" x 17" spreads:
Page 1 & 8 (Front/Back Cover)
Page 2 & 7
Page 3 & 6
Page 4 & 5
This way it prints the pages in the correct sections for them to be binded.
In InDesign, I see that I can create a 2 page spreads but how do I set it up so when I send to print it will print the pages in the right spot?
(So Page 2 & 3 are a spread and it wont print Page 3 on Page 7)
It looks to me that InDesign is more practical for catalog/magazine design - I just want to make sure that I set everything up correctly before I work on something and then realize that the way I had it was wrong.
Please help, thanks!
Craig B
10-07-2008, 09:43 PM
Your printer will usually handle imposing the files to be printer spreads (but not always ... always check with your printer first.)
InDesign is for multi-page layout. Illustrator is fine for single page or possible, a back and front piece.
Yeah, you don't need to impose your pages into printer spreads, because the printer can handle that part of it. You're free to lay out your spreads as you'll see them, ordered in the final product.
If you want to impose your own pages, you can do so using InBooklet, which is a plugin for InDesign. There are other plugins and software available as well. However, your printer will have their own booklet-making software which is probably better than what you can do. :)
artgem1984
10-08-2008, 09:25 AM
It's usually best if you let the printer handle imposition, we get a few files through for printing that have been 'planned,' by the designer and sometimes it takes extra time to sort out, especially if it's not been taken into consideration how the job will be printed - digital, offset etc. (we usually deal with PDF supplied where possible, so splitting a file and re planning it when it's wrong takes awhile.) I agree with Ned, you are free to work in such a way that you can see the spreads as they appear in the final product.
Having said that, I'd ask whoever will be printing it how they would prefer to receive the file - for example I personally would ask you for a PDF in single pages not spreads, which is just an option when it comes to export so doesn't affect how you work :) but a different printer may ask you for something completely different.
budafist
10-08-2008, 11:06 AM
Page 1 & 8 (Front/Back Cover)
Page 2 & 7
Page 3 & 6
Page 4 & 5
If you really want to set up the files, make sure you do a mock up so that you are sure it is set up correct.
Page 8 & 1 (left page first, right page second)
Page 2 & 7
Page 6 & 3
Page 4 & 5
HDDesign
10-08-2008, 03:23 PM
ok... i figured this out but I am still stuck...
To print the pages in the correct order as I designed them in InDesign there is an option called "Print Booklet" (I am using InDesign CS3). This is exactly what I wanted because it lines up pages 2 & 7 next to each other even though in my design page 2 & 3 are together and page 6 & 7 are together.
Now what I need to do is save each page spread as a PDF - I couldn't figure out how to do it! Normally in the print dialog box there is an option for PDF but in InDesign CS3 there isnt. I found this discussion in the Adobe forums and others have the same problem: http://livedocs.adobe.com/en_US/InDesign/5.0/help.html?content=WSa285fff53dea4f8617383751001ea8 cb3f-7049.html
Apparently they took the PDF option to print an imposed booklet and it's only available in CS2... what the hell? How am I supposed to send this to my printer... they need a PDF of the work.
I can save a PDF but it wont impose the file, it will only save it the way it is designed (page 2 & 3 together) and that messes up the order that I needed it printed.
Does anyone who has InDesign CS3 know another way to save an imposed PDF fie??
artgem1984
10-08-2008, 04:27 PM
Will your printer not impose it for you?......
HDDesign
10-08-2008, 04:32 PM
I figured out the problem with the help of this article:
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?14@@.3c05495e/54
I needed to Install an Update of Acrobat Pro 8.1.2 in order for the Adobe PDF 8.0 print drive to work.
Then I followed these instructions and it created an imposed PDF for me:
http://www.drewprops.com/?p=276
YES!!!!!!
HDDesign
10-08-2008, 04:34 PM
Will your printer not impose it for you?......
The company I use for printing booklets needs a PDF of the artwork, they wont accept an InDesign file. (plus it would take like a year to upload to their server)
If you really want to set up the files, make sure you do a mock up so that you are sure it is set up correct.
Page 8 & 1 (left page first, right page second)
Page 2 & 7
Page 6 & 3
Page 4 & 5
Hehe... Good catch Buda. Good thing he hadn't set it up that way. ;)
I should have noticed that error myself... The last time I did an 8 page printer spread was like... a few days ago. xD
emucru
10-08-2008, 05:10 PM
Export your ID file as single pages not spreads and they can probably impose it for you. They might even prefer to.
Export your ID file as single pages not spreads and they can probably impose it for you. They might even prefer to.
The OP already stated that the printer being used only takes PDFs, not InDesign.
emucru
10-08-2008, 05:26 PM
The OP already stated that the printer being used only takes PDFs, not InDesign.
Correct. I should have said export to PDF as single pages. I was refering to the OPs response of "Let the printer impose it" Basically stating to send the printer a single page PDF so the printer can impose it.
The company I use for printing booklets needs a PDF of the artwork, they wont accept an InDesign file. (plus it would take like a year to upload to their server)
artgem1984
10-09-2008, 08:51 AM
The company I use for printing booklets needs a PDF of the artwork, they wont accept an InDesign file. (plus it would take like a year to upload to their server)
If you read my first post properly you would see that I advised single page PDF's to the printer so they can impose it for you, not an Indesign file.
budafist
10-09-2008, 09:41 AM
True, depending on the size of the printing press, it might be printed 2 up (in which case the way you imposed it is correct) but might 4up (in which case the printers would have to impose it anyway).
I prefer my clients send everything to me 1up single pages. If they really want to impose, that's fine, but please call ahead and find out how many up these need to be set up.