Pantone Colour in Corel 10?

[Painter]

Hi

I wonder if anyone out there can help me?

Whenusing a pantone card, the colours never match up when I print my work.(My lecturer isblowing down my neck, because she thinks Ihave no sence of colour)

Do you get a special pantone card for Corel, orarethere any settings thatI can adjust to make my work look better when printed?

(I usually print on lazer, but it also happened witha freelance job that was printed commercially - luckily the client did'nt mind theslight difference between theirlight sandybrown and the newgreenier brown)

Some of the people in my class experience the same, but since our computor wizard lecturer only works on freehand he has no idea what to do.

[Allen Harkleroad]

If you are using the panton palette in CorelDraw and the color is off (mine used to be all the time), you might need to set up your color with a color matching system so it will print basically what you see. I myself have had isses with CorelDraw even when using color matching profiles.


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[KKG]

Set your colour management to 'optimised for desktop printing' . This will bring your screen closer to the finished printed product. Preferably also load your specific monitor and printer output and well. ........then.
create your own pantone index, it is a little time consuming but well worth the effort.....as follows.
Small rectangles of colour, approx. 15mm x 10mm, ranging from 100% of a pantone colour down to 0% of same colour. I did mine in 10% intervals, ie 100%, 90% etc. to 0%.....for EVERY pantone colour.

The final product on A4 is around 15 sheets or so. Print these sheets out on the specfic printer you use.

You will then have the EXACT colour that any specific %pantone colour will print out to.

NOTE: These colours will probably print differently from version to version in corel and will also probably print differently from one brand of printer to another.

At one point I had 3 Epson Stylus pro 3000's, all bought at the same time and one of the printers printed slightly (but noticably) different
from the others.

regards kk

[Painter]

Thanks very much for all your help. I really appreciate it very much. I think I'll create my own pantone index, using the pantone card supplied by the varsity.
rgds
painter

[PrintDriver]

Whoa, on the pantone index.
As KKG noted it will be very specific to YOUR printer.
You will be swapping PMS colors for your charted colors.
If you EVER send such a thing for print at an outsource, be darn sure you put in the TRUE PMS colors or you will get back something a little more awful than a greenier tan.

What you should do is select a color scheme using the real Pantone numbers. Match the pantone chips to something on your printed chart AND KEEP A RECORD of your equivalents.

You may also want to think about calibrating your monitor or even the colors you pick off your chart are gonna look really funky.

PrintDriver is a grande format digital print dude (bigger than a proofer, LOL). His advice/opinions may not apply to the 4color/offset/web world of printing

Post Edited (PrintDriver) : 11/1/2004 12:15:38 PM GMT

[Painter]

Thank very much for your advise.
I realize that this will only be a short term solution...my final exams are coming up, and I only need to get stuff printed once - in order to be examened. ( I only have a real big problem with one or two projects )
If I ever get to do any big freelance stuff again, I think I might rather use Freehand to make double sure about my colour sceme, because it seems as if many people experience problems with corel.

[PrintDriver]

Work with a printer first before deciding to switch programs because of color issues.
Depends on your print process for production as to how much trouble you will have getting accurate printout.
Spot colors on press come out of a can (so to speak). Spot colors on digital prints rely on color management and sometimes charts just like you're using.
The better the pressman/prepress tech, the better the color match.

And unless your monitor is calibrated, nothing will match that either.

PrintDriver is a grande format digital print dude (bigger than a proofer, LOL). His advice/opinions may not apply to the 4color/offset/web world of printing

[Broacher]

Keep in mind that all spot colours-- on screen, or on composite proofers (except for the highest, most expensive ones), are all just guesses-- some better than others. It's just a fact that some Pantone colours are hermits living outside both the screen RGB and print CMYK gamuts. Which is where a good swatch book comes in. Most CMS systems concentrate on RGB and CMYK colour-- it's up to the designer to be aware of just how accurate these spot colour representations are for the job's purposes.

[PrintDriver]

Hermits.
Don't think I've ever called an unmatchable PMS color a hermit.
Lots of other names. LOL!

Yes there are colors outside the gamut of the CMYK (and RGB) printers. Depends on the machine though as to which colors those are.
(again speaking large format).

It's not something I would expect a designer to know. But I do like it alot when a designer calls to discuss color BEFORE designing a piece or an exhibit.

PrintDriver is a grande format digital print dude (bigger than a proofer, LOL). His advice/opinions may not apply to the 4color/offset/web world of printing

[KKG]

speaking of calibration....tried to load my samsung syncMaster 1100p(plus) monitor to the corel 12 profile and it ...............refuses........am winging it at the moment.
experimented with visual comparisons on a published piece and come up with good ole 'generic'' being the closest. ....suggestions???

[Keyare]

Idunno. Tweak generic?

Hey - We need a list of hermits. 375 is mine. I can get it by mixing batches of ink but can NOT get it on a cmyk printer...

[PrintDriver]

274 and friends are mine in Vutek and lambda (anything on the red end of dark blue).
Plus some of the orangey warm reds and 'tennisball yellows' (like 375) in Lambda.
And it appears someone has walked off with my HP chart.
grumble grumble grumble...(goes to look in sales office).

PrintDriver is a grande format digital print dude (bigger than a proofer, LOL). His advice/opinions may not apply to the 4color/offset/web world of printing