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Oldat29
02-11-2009, 12:22 PM
Ok i need some Beckett fans here.
Im to design stamps for becketts 20th anniversary.
This one is from krapps last tape, and i need to know do beckett fans get it. Its not near finished i havent even worked the type yet, so im mainly looking for crits on the concept.
ABOUT Krapps last tape. Im using the stage setting for the feel of the stamp. Minimal set, no dramitics and no lighting cues.
Also the idea comes from the play, he eats 3 bananas on his birthday EVERY year.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/lordsamson/ban-stamp.png
martyng
02-11-2009, 12:46 PM
I know bananas are quite phallic anyway, but without any colour, this just looks like... yknow, wang.
Oldat29
02-12-2009, 01:36 AM
No Beckett fans?
No letter to my mom is having me lick a wang to get it there.
I wouldn't use that stamp either.
eismont_designs
02-13-2009, 08:25 PM
Is this just being sent to Beckett fans?
seamas
02-13-2009, 08:46 PM
I can't help but see Warhol / Velvet Underground when I see a banana rendered like that.
Oldat29
02-13-2009, 11:06 PM
They are to be designed as commemorative stamps, so collectables.
Oldat29
02-13-2009, 11:08 PM
I can't help but see Warhol / Velvet Underground when I see a banana rendered like that.
Yea now that iv ooked it up i see what you mean, i dont think theres a big likeness.
seamas
02-16-2009, 03:50 PM
Yea now that iv ooked it up i see what you mean, i dont think theres a big likeness.
Not a huge likeness at all, but just enough.
Oldat29
04-08-2009, 12:03 AM
Ok iv totaly change the way i went with this.
Hows this one looking?
The face is a drawing, and i wanted to keep it minimal, just like his plays.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/lordsamson/BECKETT-FACE.jpg
Grfk Dzgn
04-08-2009, 04:17 AM
ETT lig! I'm digg'n the drama.
Oldat29
04-08-2009, 10:30 AM
ETT lig! I'm digg'n the drama.
Without trying to sound like a noob, ETT Lig!????
eugenetyson
04-08-2009, 11:38 AM
A guy I worked with is brilliant artist and he did some sculptures and drawings of Mr. Beckett.
Perhaps it might provide inspiration?
http://www.paul-flynn.com/sculpture1.html
http://www.paul-flynn.com/figurative2.html
Oldat29
04-08-2009, 11:59 AM
Thats some beautiful work there man.
Red Kittie Kat
04-08-2009, 12:20 PM
I really like that Oldat ... very striking :)
Broacher
04-08-2009, 12:49 PM
We wait. We are bored. (He throws up his hand.) No, don't protest, we are bored to death, there's no denying it. Good. A diversion comes along and what do we do? We let it go to waste... In an instant all will vanish and we'll be alone once more, in the midst of nothingness!
And he used to wonder why he never got invited to any good parties.
Oldat29
04-09-2009, 06:42 PM
Heres another, its WAITING FOR GODOT.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/lordsamson/godot.jpg
Mynock
04-09-2009, 08:17 PM
"I'm just trying to get home."
John G
04-09-2009, 08:33 PM
The great ruiner of Star Trek.
Mynock
04-09-2009, 08:37 PM
Did Ziggy and Sam ever get him home?
Oldat29
04-09-2009, 09:11 PM
Crit?
John G
04-09-2009, 09:13 PM
"Dr. Sam Beckett never returned home."
Oldat29
04-09-2009, 09:33 PM
Ok guys im a treky to but, this is Samuel Beckett, the Irish play writer.
Mynock
04-09-2009, 11:29 PM
"Dr. Sam Beckett never returned home."Shucks. I guess he'll be leaping forever.
Oldat29
04-09-2009, 11:41 PM
Guys he actully meets god in the last show, god tells um this is his life and thats the end of it....... Now that you know can you please give me feedback rather then HIJAK THE THREAD??
garricks
04-10-2009, 12:08 AM
Yeah, we get it. Funny Quantum Leap reference... can we please get back to the postage stamp crit? Or go play in the OT threads. ;)
Oldat, I rather like it, but I've never seen 'Godot,' so I wouldn't necessarily get the reference. Is the tree itegral to the play's script?
Oldat29
04-10-2009, 12:36 AM
Yes i have aimed these at beckett fans, so a fan would know it straigh off. Its about waiting, 2 guys wait under a tree for godot but she never turns up.
Is the face LiveTrace? It has that sloppy feel. The type and layout and overall feel is good though.
Why doesn't the Godot image go to the edges? It lacks the cohesion of the headshot stamp.
And would it be better to make a series of stamps all portrait or landscape? I don't know either way if there's a rule here, just for unities sake, it might look better as a collection.
Oldat29
04-10-2009, 08:50 PM
No live trace, its a drawing i done with my wacom and spray tool.....
Im still working on the godot stamp, im trying to get the layout to go accross the stamps but its the type over the image thats off putting..
Grfk Dzgn
04-10-2009, 09:31 PM
Scale of the tree seems a little off and perhaps the bg texture is a bit heavy, yet seems to be scaled for the human figures. I've yet to read Sam's work.
Typographic ligature (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typographical_ligature)
Oldat29
04-11-2009, 10:16 AM
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/lordsamson/godot-ANOTHER.jpg
OK I chaged the layout to suit the face one, hows it looking?
I think stamp collections usually follow a template. Everything has its place and doesn't change from stamp to stamp. The only thing to change would be the image but not the actual positioning. So maybe choose all your images and then figure out the layout. Don't lose the feel you have now, it's really nice, just make them more homogenous.
LillieStarr
04-11-2009, 12:54 PM
It's definitely getting there but I agree with Roth, keep the same template and just alter the pictures.
Good Luck :)
Oldat29
04-11-2009, 02:35 PM
Ok heres a revision to match it to the first one.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/lordsamson/godot-ANOTHER2.jpg
simplicity
04-11-2009, 03:00 PM
The type and the top of the tree feel a little cramped. I would try scaling the image down a bit to give it a little more space.
It's closer but the layouts are still different. On the headshot the date and postage are at the top, name at the bottom. And your 55c is a different size.
Oldat29
04-12-2009, 08:45 PM
So getting these to match was easyer then i tought. What do you think?
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/lordsamson/godot-finished.jpghttp://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/lordsamson/BECKETT-FACE.jpg
Broacher
04-12-2009, 11:28 PM
If I recall from the script, the tree under which Vladimir and Estragon meet is dead and barren. This one looks like it belongs in that PBS show 'Nature' in the opening title.
I think you've cracked it. Apart from Broacher's observation, from a technical stand it looks great. The only thing i would change is move the image down a little, as the white gap above the name seems too large compared with the top of the tree and dates gap. Nice work.
Broacher
04-13-2009, 12:26 AM
Anyone other than me wincing at the W2 presentation of these development stages?
Anyone other than me wincing at the W2 presentation of these development stages?
you noticed that to huh.
I know absolutely nothing about Samuel Beckett, but from a purely aesthetic stand point they look good.
You should be using a en dash between the dates rather then a hyphen. A classical sign of someone who doesn't know type – don't let it show.
Oldat29
04-13-2009, 11:52 AM
Anyone other than me wincing at the W2 presentation of these development stages?
Dont know what this means....
You should be using a en dash between the dates rather then a hyphen. A classical sign of someone who doesn't know type – don't let it show.
This is why i love crit, it teachs me something every time.
Broacher
04-13-2009, 01:04 PM
The www2 look-- faded glossy reflection, gradated black background--more of a match for a jewelery store presentation than a stamp's 'natural' graphic presentation environment (white envelope on desk or table, or something like that).
When I was in school our instructors went to great pains to teach us about work presentation. At that time, all work was cement-mounted on white boards, tissue overlay, and black cover on top of that. I don't know, I learned how to do it, I guess, but I've seen so much graphic pablum sold that was based on this kind of packaging that I've shifted back to my messier ways. I'll often present an ad, for example, within a copy of a representational page it will appear on. If my work can't cut through the visual clutter that we all are now living in, why pretend that it's going to be mounted on a museum wall?
I know that from a behaviourial, pyschological standpoint that presentation polish works, but I find it works in the wrong direction too much. Anyhow, doesn't matter much-- 98% of the work I do always gets presented by someone else and most of that is a printout of a PDF I've forwarded.
Maybe it's a question of degree-- tissue and cover overlay is one thing, a glossy black mirror, another. I think that ideally, presentation should stick to white or grey backing for as objective and non-distracting an evaluation as possible. Maybe even more critical for pure black and white pieces, when you think about it.
Oldat29
04-13-2009, 01:24 PM
Yea i see now what you mean, but i havent even tought of final presentation just yet, I still have another 2 stamps to design.
Broacher
04-13-2009, 02:29 PM
I appreciate what you're saying, but when you use this kind of slick 'wrapper' in the development stage, it does have a very real effect on the design decisions made and development of the piece itself. You may not be conscious of it, but it's there in the decision of line weights, composition, balance -- all this and more will be effected by the presence of the reflection, the gradients. In a way, you end up designing to the 'frame' rather than the design objective.
Kind of like trying to design a car engine to match the styling of a car, rather than the other way around.
"Good design is consequent to the last detail" -Dieter Rams
And that infers a linear, temporal hierarchy to the process and the results. The last details first? That doesn't work too well in enforcing consequential order into the design process.