99 Designs

[eugenetyson]

Hope I don't step on people's toes here, but I saw this and just wanted general feedback

It seems a client will post a brief and how much they are willing to pay. Then people submit their work and the client picks the best one and person gets the money.

99designs.com

99designs.com/help/howitworks

Well just wanted to see what people think of it, good or bad

[John G]

That's the wrong order to do things in chief.

[eugenetyson]

Yeh I know it's very weird.

You could end up spending a week doing designs and then not even get paid for any of them.

[Kool]

Basic spec work bullshit, just dressed up a bit.

I removed the links, if somebody really wants to look at them they can paste em. We don't want to drive any more traffic to these BS sites.

[eugenetyson]

I guess it's sort of a good idea if you are looking to get some design experience dealing with briefs etc.

I'm not totally opposed to it, but I am opposed to it. I would feel dirty if I tried any of those, one of those moments where you have to shower for a long time to get all the slime off.

Would anyone find it useful though?

[CkretAjint]

It's spec work. Don't do spec work...

People claim it's great because they get options. Talk to your designer, look at their portfolio. Based on those 2 things you should be able to tell if the designer you are hiring can fill your needs.

[seamas]

Spec work /crowd sourcing is no good for anyone.


It is of course bad for the majority of the designers who submit work-

It isn't all that great for the clients either.
They simply aren't getting what they think they ate getting

And it isn't good for the industry.

This type of thing ALWAYS ends up with a TON of art that is ripped off of other designers and other copyrights and trademarks.

[eugenetyson]

But along with that, the client can see all the submissions.

So what stop me, for example, posting a spec I get from a client that I got through my portfolio and contacting them.

Offer a large remuneration for design work. Then reject them all on the site - but secretly steal their work.

I mean it's possible I could do it. Repro work isn't that hard.

And I think i already saw a rip-off of a logo or two up on the site already.

What's to stop a budding young artist ripping off a logo and selling it to some unknown client, who thinks it's great and pays for it and it's a rip-off.

[drawingguy]

Some of the stuff on that site makes me want to vomit uncontrollably for 17 days. I don't claim to be the best logo designer, but come on. Some of them can't even get the company name correct.

The next 17 days are going to be rough.

[captain spanky]

when i want a new car, i will go to several manufacturers and ask them to design me a new car. it will be unlike anyone elses and i reserve the right to alter any of these designs as many times as i want with as many different additions as i like... requiring a full concept vehicle being built to scale at each stage so i can taste the 'look and feel' of the car. When i have finally chosen a design i like from the variety of selections, i will ask for it in a different colour and with a bigger badge on the front. I will then offer to pay a discounted rate for one of these cars as i don't feel that the price i offered at the beginning is indicative of the amount of work they actually put into it because, you know, they do it all the time, it's easy for them.
Oh and if it breaks down at any time in the next forty years (like when i put petrol in the diesel tank... or if i drive it through a wall 'by accident'), the manufacturer will be liable for fixing it.
:)
you wouldn't do that for anything else. why treat graphic designers any differently?

[PrintDriver]

http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43358

Ooh. Something shiny. BRB.

[CkretAjint]

But along with that, the client can see all the submissions.

Again, the individual should be able to judge my style of work from my portfolio. If they was multiple concepts I would be happy to provide them such a request...

Why do they need 500 versions of something just to pick one?

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Dear Construction workers I am interested in getting work done from,

I am splitting my bedroom into 2 separate rooms. Please build me a wall with a door to add into my house. Of the 100+ submissions I get I will pick the best wall, and use it (only this person will be paid). I am willing to pay $50 for such a wall. You have 10 days to build this and submit for my judging.

Thanks!

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:rolleyes:

[Grfk Dzgn]

Crowdsourcing is a hideous concept.

[John G]

Crowdsourcing is a hideous concept.

I wish I would have come up with it and made a successful business out of it though :(

..Just like that 1 million pixels of advertising space guy... ;_;

[budafist]

Designing isn't about taking a brief and spitting out 1 design. It's a process with changes and input from both sides.