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scubahood
11-13-2009, 03:33 PM
:confused:I'm trying to print knockout process black text over an imported pdf in indesign cs3.. i turned off overprint in preferences and have overprint deselected in the attributes but it is STILL overprinting the black!... any ideas anyone?
eugenetyson
11-13-2009, 03:42 PM
Yes, you turned off Overprint in the preferences (not recommend by the way).
The preferred method is - don't mess with the Black swatch (or any swatch) with square brackets around it in indesing, like [Black] and [registration] they're there for a reason and non-editable for a reason.
Make a new swatch called Knockout Black make it 100%K And this should already knockout anything.
The way you get this to overprint is to select Overprint Fill in the Attributes Panel but it should already be knocking out.
Gadget
11-13-2009, 03:48 PM
You didn't mention what you're printing it on, but a lot of times the printer/RIP has a setting to overprint black that will override your InDesign settings. You might check there too.
scubahood
11-13-2009, 04:19 PM
hey thanks for the replies
i am using a copy of the black swatch and it's still overprinting..
i'm printing with a konica minolta c6500 and i've never experienced this problem before that wasn't easily corrected..
i tried printing with 'let indesign determine colours' selected instead of postscript printer and it's still not working..
i know i could just put the text into the pdf with illustrator but i'd really rather get to the bottom of this!
Gadget
11-13-2009, 04:36 PM
You should have an option in your print settings for "black overprint" and "PS overprint". Did you check to see if black overprint is unchecked? (it's checked by default)
scubahood
11-13-2009, 04:50 PM
is that in the indesign print dialogue? cause i can't find it.. in the printer's dialogue i have composite overprint and auto trapping turned off and that's all that seems remotely relevant ...
Gadget
11-13-2009, 04:56 PM
I was referring to the printer's dialogue, but I guess the specifics would depend on which controller you are using. Do you know which one? (Creo, Fiery, neither?)
scubahood
11-13-2009, 04:59 PM
fiery
scubahood
11-13-2009, 05:03 PM
oooh! in the expert setting at the very bottom.. black overprint.. genius! thanks!
Gadget
11-13-2009, 05:05 PM
Was just typing out the answer and you found it! lol... I've forgotten that setting on more than one occasion.
scubahood
11-13-2009, 05:14 PM
yah.. phew .. too many settings for the same freakin' thing
firefighter26
11-13-2009, 09:09 PM
yah.. phew .. too many settings for the same freakin' thing
Its funny, because in my workflow there must be at least half a dozen areas to "double check" to make sure black isn't set to overprint. There are a few jobs where I can check the original InDesign files, the PDFs, the RIP Software and still can't figure out WHY the black is overprinting.
Then, I generate a PDF from InDesign (making sure the black is NOT set to overprint), open the PDF in Illustrator, and BOOM the attributes panel shows me that object is set to overprint again..... wtf!
I simply un-check it within illustrator, re-save the PDF and push it through the workflow without any of the problems. Its crazy, but it works.
Luckily I only run into it a few times a year. Since it always comes from the same design firm, I always assume it is something one of their designers or on staff free-lancers was doing during initial set up of the job.