Macromedia Fireworks 0W3NZ Photoshop and Yes MS PAINT Anyday Baby!

[Rhodeder]

I devote this thread to proving everyone http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/worshippy.gif Macromedia fireworkshttp://www.graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/worshippy.gif ownz
http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/bootyshake.gif Photoshophttp://www.graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/bootyshake.gif and i am willing to compete with anyone of your works and prove that i can do a better job with fireworks http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
*Cracks Knuckles lets get this party going!http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/cheers.gif

OH YEAH!

RULES:
1. Only One image to compete over per person!I'm only one person you know!

2. Your work only!

3. If you did use any exterior programs in the use of making the image i want you to list them.

4. Have fun with this thread!

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[PrintDriver]

While we aren't a competition forum have a ball.
Don't be...um...surprised at the offerings you recieve.
There is more to being a 'great graphic designer' than Macromedia Fireworks.

Welcome to the forum. Look around, read the resource stickies, etc. etc. etc.

PD is a grande format digital print dude. His advice/opinions may not apply to the 4color/offset/web world of printing

LMAO @ this thread is this guy serious.

Graphic Design Heroes! Call me Captain Type Caster. I’ve fought off “The Evil Cosmic Sans” for year but it seems “Dr. Extreme Untalent” keeps bringing him back. I must find a way to defeat this evil creature.

Capt. Creative bring me those comps…

[Ryan8720]

Fireworks better than Photoshop... LMAO!

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[reuber1]

Actually the filters and layer blending effects in "Notepad" are far superior to those in Fireworks, as noted in several consumer reports studies. Although not as cost effective as either Fireworks or Photoshop, it gets the job done. You can access it's best filter by opening it and pushing "F1".

Seriously.

I hate snow.

[Rhodeder]

Fireworks is just as compatable with any filters as notepad or photoshop. And yes i am serious as i will ever be i am proud to be a user of macromedia fireworks. No matter what in software usually the more you spend on it the better its gonna be and macromedia fireworks cost alot more than adobe photoshop. Now lets get this thing started. This is in no way competion between users but competition between software. So if i beat u dont get mad at me but at this wonderful piece of software i am using
; )

Rhodeder

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[PrintDriver]

So if I spend $119 on Windows, it's better than the $110 Panther?
<sorry cheap shot.>
Any program is worth what you put into it.
And unless you find an impartial judge to sponsor this little dance, I doubt anyone will be interested in hearing your own opinion of your own work.
Just do me a favor oh master of fireworks. When you send something out for print, make sure it's in a format and resolution that will print.

PD is a grande format digital print dude. His advice/opinions may not apply to the 4color/offset/web world of printing

[Ryan8720]

That isn't a very sound theory Rhodeder. There are plenty of pieces of free software that do better jobs than software you'd pay for. Spybot S&D, Ad-Aware SE, AVG Anti-Virus are a few.

Also, Photoshop CS ($649) actually costs more than double what Fireworks MX 2004 ($299) costs.

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[reuber1]

Beat me to it, Ryan; my connection is the sh!ts right now. I have the links for the latest versions of each program, each the official retail...

Photoshop (http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/main.html)

Fireworks (http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/store/index.cfm?store=OLS-US&view=ols_prod&category=/Software/Development/StandAlones/Fireworks#loc=en_us&rangeUpper=6%2C0%2C65%2C0&HTMLVerRedirect=true&returnURL=%2Fcfusion%2Fstore%2Fhtml%2Findex%2Ecfm% 3Fstore%3DOLS%2DUS%26event%3DdisplayProduct%26cate goryPath%3D%2FSoftware%2FDevelopment%2FStandAlones %2FFireworks&store=OLS-US&view=ols_prod&category=/Software/Development/StandAlones/Fireworks&viewName=Macromedia%20Worldwide%20Store&pageNotFound=0)

What 'notepad' filters is Fireworks just as compatible with? First of all, I was being heavily sarcastic on the Notepad reference...by Notepad I mean the Start > All Programs > Accessories > Notepad, the same Notepad that virtually every computer comes with, the same one you code HTML, XML, CSS, etc. in. By 'F1' I meant bring up the 'Help' menu. Maybe I was being too abstract.



Secondly, do you work for Macromedia? Honestly I see Fireworks as the equivalent to Adobe Imageready, the web image optimization tool that comes with Photoshop. I like Fireworks solely for it's 'seamless' integration with Dreamweaver, and by 'seamless' I mean it works like a charm if you don't make a minor mistake that f'cks up the entire project...Macromedia has 'seamless' issues between Fireworks/Dreamweaver and Freehand/Flash. Honestly, it doesn't matter what software you're good with, just that you can design effectively with it. So you're good with fireworks, great! That's what's important, what you can do with it. But some people prefer Photoshop to Fireworks since Photoshop is pretty much the industry standard. I don't think I've seen an ad for a job requesting knowledge of Fireworks and not Photoshop (in fact, I don't think I've ever seen one for Fireworks at all).

//Edit: That Fireworks link was making my me scroll too far, so I fixed it.

Post Edited By Moderator (*Ryan*) : 1/19/2005 3:27:41 AM GMT

[Rhodeder]

interesting points i think ill buy a copy of photoshop and ill chk it out and if it doesnt seem as good photoshop would just prove to be a waste of money.

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[reuber1]

Thanks ryan. I'm on a widescreen and didn't take that into account...I should have known when I had to click like forty frickin' links to get there.


I hate snow.

[reuber1]

Rhodeder said...
interesting points i think ill buy a copy of photoshop and ill chk it out and if it doesnt seem as good photoshop would just prove to be a waste of money.


?


...or you could download a trial version (http://www.adobe.com/products/tryadobe/main.jsp#product=39)of it that gives you 30 days to try it out; may be a huge download, but what's smarter, spending more time to wait for a long download or shell out $649 for a product you've never used? And if it doesn't seem as good to you that doesn't "prove" anything except that you like Fireworks a whole bunch (I saw your one post on the Job board; we get it, you like the program); just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't better than Fireworks. Hell, I already "proved" that Notepad is better than everything anyway.

I hate snow.

[PrintDriver]

So let me get this again. You say Fireworks is better than Photoshop but you've never even TRIED Photoshop.
No wait, you said you were better at Fireworks than anyone using Photoshop.
Wait...
Now that you find Photoshop is more expensive than Fireworks that'll spur you to buy it just to try it out....
Hold on...
If you buy Photoshop and it doesn't work for YOU then it's only a waste of YOUR money.
I think I'm beginning to get the picture...
Give me a minute...

PD is a grande format digital print dude. His advice/opinions may not apply to the 4color/offset/web world of printing

[D-Zine]

/emoticons/lol.gif @ PD

Power to the Oldschoolers

[Wonder Woman]

Surely this is all about personal preference? It shouldn't be to do with which software costs more, or that this program is better than what, should it? Having a rule that the more the software costs, the better the program is ridiculous.


P.S. I don't think anyone is going to enter your competition, because the rest of us know that Photoshop is better than Fireworks. /emoticons/biggrin.gif /emoticons/thumbsup.gif

Searching for creative juices

Crayons bitch!!! Yea I said it, and you don't want none I use straight up Crayolas! Chea!

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Capt. Creative bring me those comps…

[D-Zine]

tee hee hee

/emoticons/lol.gif

Power to the Oldschoolers

[Flaming Moe]

This guy's more of an idiot than I am! Jeez louise! At least I try stuff before I open my mouth about things. My mom always tries to make me eat brussel sprouts, but I hate'em, even though I didn't try them. Then I tried them one time and I didn't mind them!

So stop yapping you cocky bum-dee-clutz!

Una-panoona-banka!

[Rhodeder]

wow isnt that considered flaming?

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[Rhodeder]

PD said...
So let me get this again. You say Fireworks is better than Photoshop but you've never even TRIED Photoshop.
No wait, you said you were better at Fireworks than anyone using Photoshop.
Wait...
Now that you find Photoshop is more expensive than Fireworks that'll spur you to buy it just to try it out....
Hold on...
If you buy Photoshop and it doesn't work for YOU then it's only a waste of YOUR money.
I think I'm beginning to get the picture...
Give me a minute...


lol ive used photoshop before but since adobe raised there price on the new photoshop 7 cs i think i will give it a try. It might have some cool new features. Does anyone use it?

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[D-Zine]

Photoshop CS is actually version 8.

Power to the Oldschoolers

[morea]

I'm sticking to MS Paint. It's more user-friendly.

[D-Frag]

greatest thread in a while, thanks for the humor

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[Flaming Moe]

Rhodeder said...
wow isnt that considered flaming?


wow, isn't my name flaming moe? http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/jumpin.gif <---- flames.

Una-panoona-banka!

[reuber1]

I'm sure he got your point when you gave us your brilliant anecdote about your mother's brussel sprouts.

I hate snow.

[Ryan8720]

OMG LMAO.

This thread is gold.

I know about the Fireworks site. Searched for that price myself. It was really a roundabout process.

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[Rhodeder]

Flaming Moe said...



Rhodeder said...
wow isnt that considered flaming?


wow, isn't my name flaming moe? http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/jumpin.gif <---- flames.


lol

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[Kool]

Flaming Moe's antics aside /emoticons/lol.gif this thread has a smell to it. I knows PD's smelling it.

Rhodeder, you trollin dude? Because we hate that alot. /emoticons/cool.gif

Where am I going and why am I in this handbasket?

[Drorain]

I perfer whipping out the ink pad, Whapping the ole Ding dong against it, and stamping paper to get desired results, VERy ancient technique used by the mound builders. I affectionately call it mushroom stamping

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[SG]

Personally, i do alot of web design with fireworks, Even though I dont liek the ay all my sites look http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/rofl.gif

[morea]

hey, SG, welcome aboard. /emoticons/cheers.gif

I don't think anyone's trashing fireworks, so much as the particular topic covered here.

Power to the Old Schoolers! and btw, if you can't say something nice, shut the hell up.

[reuber1]

Looks like no more "contest", since the only one who gave a damn is banned. Too bad too, looks like we were going to deal with a "pro". Sh!t happens when you party naked.

I hate trolls.

[vend3r]

he is so lucky he got baned i would have smashed him in that so called contest

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[Ryan8720]

lol

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[Wonder Woman]

Did you guys ban him? Ah, that sucks! This was quite an interesting thread, even though there was only one fighting the other side!

Searching for creative juices

[Ryan8720]

Yep, he is banned. He was a really big dumbass.

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[~Digital_E.V.O~]

The only time I use Fireworks, is optimizing my Photoshop work. In all honesty, Fireworks is meant for the screen. Have you ever used Fireworks for serious color correction. What about opening a 500meg file? AHH... Do you even know what DPI is? Adobe is Print, Macromedia is Screen. 300 DPI vs. 72 DPI. /emoticons/cheers.gif

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[reuber1]

I think the only one who thought FW was better than PS was Mr. Banned Man himself. Seriously, that guy sucks at life.

I hate trolls.

[moe2i6]

i woulda luved to see sum1 compete with him. I really wanted to see his work lol but i do think he is so wrong about that thing becuz Photoshop owns.

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