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Lith
09-01-2011, 04:27 PM
There's 5 spots left. If anyone's interested pm me your email addy and I'll send you an invite

hank_scorpio
09-01-2011, 06:58 PM
Is this the draft thing?

Lith
09-01-2011, 07:07 PM
Yeah. You're already in. Trying to fill the last 4 spots

Lith
09-01-2011, 07:59 PM
maynardsayswhat - invite sent

GrittyKitty
09-02-2011, 05:25 AM
Can girls play?

vectorzomby
09-02-2011, 07:08 AM
I wana play.

hank_scorpio
09-02-2011, 07:52 AM
Yeh girls can play. We need refreshments and tacos in between plays.

Red Kittie Kat
09-02-2011, 08:05 AM
I'll hold him down Gritty ... You beat him


:D

hank_scorpio
09-02-2011, 10:00 AM
I like how this is going!

maynardsayswhat
09-02-2011, 03:55 PM
Huzzah.. now I just have to learn everything there is to know about every football player in 2 days.

Team Cookie will crush you all*! Mwahahahaha!




*(Or, Team Cookie will just eat cookies.)

Bladez
09-02-2011, 04:46 PM
not to worry maynard....it's an autodraft system, so it'll do the hard part for you :D

Ang
09-02-2011, 05:13 PM
hmmmm.... if I knew anything about football (except that its a bunch of guys wearing tight pants getting sweaty :D) I'd play ;)

Lith
09-02-2011, 07:59 PM
Can girls play?

They may play. Whether they can is a completely different question :p

Vectorzombie & Gritty - PM me your email address

Lith
09-02-2011, 08:02 PM
If those two join and BMJR accepts his invite we'll have one spot left. Looking at you Ang ;)

hank_scorpio
09-02-2011, 08:03 PM
DOn't do it, it's a trick

Lith
09-02-2011, 08:19 PM
vectorzombie - sent

maynardsayswhat
09-02-2011, 08:52 PM
Don't do it, it's a trick
I thought it was strange that the buy-in was photos of my feet but figured it was part of some fantasy football tradition or something.

hank_scorpio
09-02-2011, 08:54 PM
I've found pics of my feet on several fetish sites since I signed up for this "football" thing. I was alerted through my Fettish App on my smartphone.

Lith
09-06-2011, 07:29 PM
Hopefully you got this email from me via ESPN:

We ended up with 10 teams. I randomized the pre-draft order and it will auto draft @ 12 noon mountain time tomorrow. If you go into the "My Team" tab, right under your name you can edit pre-draft player rankings. Link below

http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/resources/help/content?name=Drafts-Autopick

Red Kittie Kat
09-06-2011, 07:31 PM
Yep I just got the email ;)

Lith
09-06-2011, 07:45 PM
Looks like 12pm EST

Red Kittie Kat
09-06-2011, 07:57 PM
I'm going to make this topic a Sticky until the end of the season so we can keep track of it and I have added the link to our League in my sig :)

maynardsayswhat
09-07-2011, 05:58 PM
Also makes it easier to trash talk. Luckily I have the urban dictionary to rely on for the ultimate in mocking glory. Mwahahahaha GOGO TEAM COOKIE!

=)

The Artist
09-07-2011, 06:55 PM
I can't wait... I need to think of a witty team name... The Bald Beavers has been something on my mind of late...

Red Kittie Kat
09-07-2011, 08:05 PM
You want to shave your countries mascot?? :eek:

For shameeee!

Bladez
09-07-2011, 08:34 PM
Us Canucks shave EVERYTHING! ;)

Lith
09-07-2011, 08:37 PM
I get the feeling Bladez shaved about three hours off his work day and has started drinking

Bladez
09-07-2011, 09:02 PM
Why do I have to leave work for that? There's a liquor store across the street from my office :D

Red Kittie Kat
09-07-2011, 09:50 PM
workers don't let co-workers work drunk :D

Bladez
09-07-2011, 09:50 PM
Who says I'm working???

Lith
09-07-2011, 10:02 PM
workers don't let co-workers work drunk :D

Alas Red, this is why us as co-workers could never work out

Red Kittie Kat
09-07-2011, 11:05 PM
I'm not a worker .. so there is no co to worry about :D

Lith
09-08-2011, 02:21 PM
Wahoo. It worked.

If the n00bs have any questions I'll do my best to answer them or find links to answers, or if anyone else knows speak up.

Lith
09-08-2011, 02:44 PM
As a reminder - The season kicks off tonight so if you have a Saint or a Packer you want to play you need them in before kick-off. All other moves must be completed before the game you want players in kicks off on Sunday or Monday.

Red Kittie Kat
09-08-2011, 03:27 PM
Thanks Lith :)

Audentia
09-08-2011, 04:24 PM
Cool stuff Lith. :)

GrittyKitty
09-09-2011, 04:02 AM
Can I bet the Pats & Ravens for AFC Champs?
And I'll take the Chargers & Eagles in the NFC :)
Who's with me!

BJMRamage
09-12-2011, 02:25 PM
still think Eugene has a pretty good team!

The Artist
09-12-2011, 02:30 PM
I call Hax

BJMRamage
09-12-2011, 02:39 PM
So, I think after this weekend I am getting a better understanding of the whole Fantasy Football thing.
And that the ESPN app isn't terrific for getting a good overview of everything.

The Artist
09-12-2011, 02:40 PM
I have the app for Android and I think it's pretty legit. I think it's called Fantasy Football League '11.

But its by ESPN.

BJMRamage
09-12-2011, 02:53 PM
I have the ESPN FFL'11 probably same thing. but maybe just not used to all the screen choices and keep hitting dud. easier on the desktop to view and look over more stuff.

not bad, but not terrific as of just yet.

The Artist
09-12-2011, 02:57 PM
Yeah FFL '11 is what I have too. Idk... I don't mind it all that much. You can move players from your bench to starting and see the scores and what the other teams are up to.

Mine used to ForceClose AALLLL THEE BLOODDDYY TIME! But got an update and have been happy since :)

BJMRamage
09-12-2011, 03:04 PM
hmmm, I think mine was buggy for a bit.

I guess it seems mine keeps going back to my team/game screen when I want to do "this" or "that"

But for free it isn't bad. and on the go.

Lith
09-12-2011, 03:05 PM
I figured after the first week things would start to fall into place for the noobs.

BJMRamage
09-12-2011, 03:16 PM
but maybe like the Colts without Manning, I will benefit from being on the bottom

Lith
09-12-2011, 07:05 PM
Hey Red

http://mystuffspace.com/graphic/suck-it-0.gif


WOOT WOOT!!!!!!

Red Kittie Kat
09-12-2011, 07:46 PM
If I had a nickel for every time I've heard that .............



Ooooh you mean Football!!! Yes... yes ... congratulations :D

BJMRamage
09-12-2011, 07:48 PM
2 more games this week! unless you have no more players involved.

The Artist
09-12-2011, 07:58 PM
LMAAOOOO Kittie, thank you for making everyone in the office stare at me after bursting out laughing :D haha!

Lith
09-12-2011, 07:59 PM
She's done and I've got two left. On the scoreboard tab it tells you how many people everybody has left.

BJMRamage
09-12-2011, 08:04 PM
but, could , in theory, your guys fumble a few and have negative points?

Lith
09-12-2011, 08:08 PM
Could happen. It's more likely out of a kicker. In my other league my kicker got me -1 this week. I could be a real cheese ball and bench the players I have left to make sure they didn't lose me any points

Lith
09-12-2011, 08:12 PM
Your D and your kicker are the most likely to lose points for you. I bet almost all of us will have our D lose points for us. I went in and softened it up a little. The default scoring on D is pretty tough

BJMRamage
09-12-2011, 08:13 PM
ohhh tricky. would not have thought that.
I mindlessly played players for Thursday night and should have paid more attention to what I was doing. I merely said "oh, they're playing better throw them in" without really seeing who I had.

oh well, first week.

BJMRamage
09-12-2011, 08:18 PM
Yeah I had some points then lost a bunch on D.
I guess I can see some kickers not being good and losing points.

Bladez
09-12-2011, 08:20 PM
My D-line did me absolutely no favours!

Should have put in the Eagles!

BJMRamage
09-12-2011, 08:31 PM
normally I'd have thought Steelers Defense would be better (thought you had them).

Bladez
09-12-2011, 09:07 PM
yea, me too! That's why I played them instead...who'd 'ave thunk it!

Audentia
09-12-2011, 09:44 PM
I still have three or four guys to go tonight so I'm hoping I can make up the 17 points (or whatever exactly it is) that I'm behind in my match-up.

And my Cowboys didn't win last night, it's like they knew I wasn't watching and had to be at the office instead... and so therefore they were sad and played sad because of it.

Bladez
09-12-2011, 09:45 PM
they play even sadder when you ARE watching....

Bladez
09-12-2011, 09:47 PM
Dammit...my kicker is gone for the season with a torn ACL.

Audentia
09-12-2011, 09:51 PM
^ :D

It's like karma heard you diss my boys and then you got a smack down for it.:p

Lith
09-12-2011, 09:51 PM
I wasn't gonna say anything till I got the kicker I wanted but there are still 5 of the top ten (including #'s 1-4, now 2-4) kickers from last year available. Way to go autodraft!

Lith
09-12-2011, 09:54 PM
I still have three or four guys to go tonight so I'm hoping I can make up the 17 points (or whatever exactly it is) that I'm behind in my match-up.

Under the scoreboard tab, in the box scores, it tells you haw many players you and your opponent have left to go.

Red Kittie Kat
09-12-2011, 10:26 PM
nice spine crushing avatar Lith :D

Lith
09-12-2011, 10:32 PM
Thank you. It's not as easy to find an X-Ray of a crushed spine as you would think. Even this ones more broken than crushed. I was thinking about just making one but I really want to keep the authentic X-Ray look and also I am very lazy.

Red Kittie Kat
09-12-2011, 10:33 PM
lol in this day and age you would thing the Googe would have them readily available :D

Lith
09-12-2011, 10:34 PM
Yeah I really had to dig. It's been my go to ff avi for three years now. I check every year and there's never anything better

Bladez
09-12-2011, 10:35 PM
I have to wait to drop my kicker until after the games tonight :( Then hopefully I can get the one I'm watching...

Lith
09-12-2011, 10:43 PM
You can pick up multiple players and set the order you would want to pick them up. That way if somebody snakes you on the guy you want you will still pick somebody up. Just make sure that you're dropping the same player on all. If that makes sense.

Probably shouldn't have a problem grabbing a kicker though.

BJMRamage
09-13-2011, 12:58 PM
Still slightly confused. I thought I dropped and add a player but looking back on it, I cannot see if the change went through. It seems I even lost a guy on my bench. But I'll just wait a bit and see what happens. Maybe it takes a while.

The Artist
09-13-2011, 01:19 PM
I'm still baffled on how Audi came back and got like 40 pts on me last night :(

BJMRamage
09-13-2011, 01:32 PM
That was a shocker! I was watching the scoreboards and figured who'd win the match ups too.

Lith
09-13-2011, 02:11 PM
Still slightly confused. I thought I dropped and add a player but looking back on it, I cannot see if the change went through. It seems I even lost a guy on my bench. But I'll just wait a bit and see what happens. Maybe it takes a while.

Under the "My Team" tab there's a flyout if you have any moves pending:

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/Nando914/ff.jpg

Audentia
09-13-2011, 02:13 PM
I'm still baffled on how Audi came back and got like 40 pts on me last night :(

Heehee. I wasn't worried at all about my lowish score on Sunday night. As I have 3 patriots including WR Wes Walker. And when Brady throws more than 500yards in passing, Walker is catching almost 40% of those I'm betting. :)

Bladez
09-13-2011, 02:32 PM
dropped my bum of a kicker....

Have a new one on waivers, but will it put him direct to my bench instead of straight into the lineup??

I don't want to have to drop a bench player to pick up a kicker to fill in the empty slot.

Lith
09-13-2011, 02:41 PM
dropped my bum of a kicker....

Have a new one on waivers, but will it put him direct to my bench instead of straight into the lineup??

I don't want to have to drop a bench player to pick up a kicker to fill in the empty slot.

I believe it will put him into the starting lineup if that's where the player you dropped was. Either way if you're dropping your old kicker to pick up your new one you shouldn't have to do anything with any other players. At most it'll put him on the bench then you'll just have to move him into your starters

Bladez
09-13-2011, 02:45 PM
that's what I thought too...just wanted to make sure I was on the right track.

Lith
09-13-2011, 09:58 PM
If you guys are dropping people in order to pick other people up the easiest way is to go to the "Players" tab. There's a white + in an orange circle next to the available players, select that. It'll take you back to your roster (with a big red warning box @ the top) then you can select who you want to drop in order to pick your player up.

Red Kittie Kat
09-14-2011, 01:30 AM
Thanks Lith :)

The Artist
09-14-2011, 12:58 PM
Ah good :) at least I know I'm doing it right lol.

maynardsayswhat
09-14-2011, 08:11 PM
For week two I have only one prediction...

Cookies are better than zombies.

There, I said it. =P

Red Kittie Kat
09-14-2011, 08:30 PM
lmao Maynard :D .... I'm hoping I'm the one crushing spines this week instead of Lith too :D

BJMRamage
09-14-2011, 08:33 PM
I thought you were Krushing Boobies Kittie

Red Kittie Kat
09-14-2011, 08:35 PM
lmao ... noooo don't crush them :D

I realized after I named myself that I am KKK .... Yikes! lmao

Kittie Kat's Krushers ... Maybe I should change it to Kittie's A$$ Kickers! lol :D

Well.. once my spine is repaired from the recent crushing that is :D

Bladez
09-14-2011, 09:08 PM
Bring it on Kittie!!

Lith
09-20-2011, 03:13 PM
How I feel after getting my ass handed to my by BJMR:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/720694/giants-lb.gif

BJMRamage
09-20-2011, 03:20 PM
haha

Someone's Spine acting up after a little Ramming?

I think my next matchup will be harder.

Bladez
09-20-2011, 03:21 PM
hahaha! Awesome!

I'm in the same boat. I'm tired of my team shitting the bed. Time to mix up the lines!!

Lith
09-20-2011, 03:23 PM
haha

Someone's Spine acting up after a little Ramming?

I think my next matchup will be harder.

BLADEZ?!??!??!?!?!?!


ithinki'mgonnabesick

BJMRamage
09-20-2011, 03:30 PM
oh, it's just Bladez? Maybe I was looking ahead on the schedule.
I need to get some fillers though. I know one player who's gonna be out next week.

Lith
09-20-2011, 03:46 PM
oh, it's just bladez?

:d

maynardsayswhat
09-20-2011, 03:50 PM
Behold the POWER of the COOKIE!!! Rawr!

A few minor adjustments and I will be prepared to handle the Maulers this week.

YOU BETTER BRING SOME MILK!!!!!

=)

Bladez
09-20-2011, 04:01 PM
yea yea....just me. Nothing to worry about, BJMR.

I've decided I'm going to instill the Golf rule for my team. Lowest score wins!!

Audentia
09-20-2011, 04:03 PM
Ah smack talk. For those that can't just win. ;)

Bladez
09-20-2011, 04:04 PM
I'm not talking smack at all...I'm conceding that my team sucks *LOL*

BJMRamage
09-20-2011, 04:14 PM
Golf score?
I guess those balls are smaller and easier for you to handle.

Yeah first week my team sucked. I didn't plan it well. made some moves for week 2. but week two i actually didn't get as much football in that i was planning. we went to a neighbor's house and i ran around after Luke so he wouldn't get into things. They actually have a big screen with "our" team on it and then a smaller TV right next to that with the NFL RedZone with multi-game coverage. so, week 3 I really have to hustle and think things over.

Bladez
09-20-2011, 04:23 PM
Of my 4 big names, who should be getting me some decent points, only 2 of them are actually performing. The other 2 aren't making any carries and keeping their points in the single digits. Plus a RB who's Out, but is on the "undroppable" list, so he's just taking up space on my bench. So moved some of my mediocre players up in place of the guys that seem to have forgotten how to play. Lets hope they can put something together.

(now you know what's going to happen right? Those guys who I moved to the bench are going to be on fire for week 3 and pull in 25 points each!)

Red Kittie Kat
09-20-2011, 05:06 PM
Uh oh ... looks like I Krushed some Boobies :D

Lith
09-20-2011, 05:17 PM
Plus a RB who's Out, but is on the "undroppable" list, so he's just taking up space on my bench.

Trade Proposed.

Uh oh ... looks like I Krushed some Boobies :D

Dammit Red! I was gonna use that in the weekly re-cap. Get outta my head!

BJMRamage
09-20-2011, 05:20 PM
I did mention that at the start of week 2. I figured there might be some Krushing Boobies.

And Yeah, I know what you mean Bladez, I swapped players based on "reviews" and was shorted on week 1, only to see more pts for position on bench than in game.

how can a player be "Undroppable"?

Lith
09-20-2011, 05:28 PM
how can a player be "Undroppable"?

There are a few players on the undroppable list. From ESPN:

Undroppable Players
The 'Undroppable' list is comprised of players who cannot be dropped to waivers at any time during the season. ESPN introduced this feature to prevent collusion (In these cases, owners would be able to drop star players, allowing those first on the waiver wire to pick them up). League managers in Custom Leagues can choose if they want to allow owners to be capable of dropping all players or be prevented from dropping designated players. View your League Settings page to see how your league is configured. In Standard Leagues the list is enforced at all times.

List of undropables:
http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/tools/undroppables

We can change it if you guys want

BJMRamage
09-20-2011, 05:32 PM
ahhh, strange but i guess some people are a lot more into than I.
OVer the weekend I was hearing of money being mentioned in trades. Not sure if that was real money or not though. clueless and glad I am in this league. It is fun but not oh-so-stressful as cash bets.

Lith
09-20-2011, 05:35 PM
ahhh, strange but i guess some people are a lot more into than I.
OVer the weekend I was hearing of money being mentioned in trades. Not sure if that was real money or not though. clueless and glad I am in this league. It is fun but not oh-so-stressful as cash bets.

I played in a league one year that was $300 to draft, $20 a week, $5 transactions.

BJMRamage
09-20-2011, 05:37 PM
again WOW!
crazy.

did you win any $$?

Red Kittie Kat
09-20-2011, 05:38 PM
Dammit Red! I was gonna use that in the weekly re-cap. Get outta my head!


I'm sorry lmao :D

You can still use it .. I'll loan it out to you :p

Lith
09-20-2011, 05:44 PM
again WOW!
crazy.

did you win any $$?

$350. Which basically covered the $20/week.

Bladez
09-20-2011, 05:44 PM
Trade Proposed.

I'm still not sold on getting rid of him yet....I'll mull it over.

Lith
09-20-2011, 05:48 PM
I'm still not sold on getting rid of him yet....I'll mull it over.

I can sweeten it up a lil for ya

Lith
09-22-2011, 07:32 PM
Playoff schedule fyi

I changed the playoffs from two weeks per matchup to one and added 2 more playoff teams. The top six teams make the playoffs with the top two receiving first round byes. Playoffs start week 14 of the regular season with the championship game taking place week 16 of the regular season.

BJMRamage
09-22-2011, 07:39 PM
not thrilled with my team this week. But haven't had much downtime to really look over my options either. i can only hope a few have a good game this week.

Red Kittie Kat
09-22-2011, 08:09 PM
Thanks for the reminder dahhhhlin' xx


I'm up against Audi this week :D

Lith
09-22-2011, 08:17 PM
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/Nando914/catfight.jpg

BJMRamage
09-22-2011, 08:25 PM
hee hee hee.

Lith
09-22-2011, 08:27 PM
I was saving that for when Bladez & TA play each other. ;)

Red Kittie Kat
09-22-2011, 08:40 PM
lmao Lith :D .... Cat fight eh??

Audi is a petite little thing ... but she is smart ... I could Krush her ... but she will probably outsmart me ;)

Lith
09-22-2011, 08:49 PM
lmao Lith :D .... Cat fight eh??

I would never! I thought they were trying to give each other hugs! :D

The Artist
09-23-2011, 12:18 PM
I was saving that for when Bladez & TA play each other. ;)

http://wilsonvent.com/wp-content/uploads/angry-cat.jpg

Bladez
09-23-2011, 04:19 PM
Lith, if you're going to use that for when TA and I face off, at least let TA dress up for the occasion.

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n383/KoolAidGreen/GDF/catfight.jpg

Lith
09-23-2011, 04:21 PM
http://wilsonvent.com/wp-content/uploads/angry-cat.jpg

Wow! He's got a madcat too

Bladez
09-23-2011, 05:34 PM
IT'S SO ANGRY!!! lol

The Artist
09-23-2011, 05:54 PM
Bladez you love it when I put on that dress.

Audentia
09-23-2011, 07:31 PM
heeehee RKK.
I feel like it's almost unfair as I love NFL football and therefore know a good chunk of the teams and players. But I'm sure I'll make a bad mistake sometime. The only question is when.

Red Kittie Kat
09-23-2011, 07:53 PM
lmao Audi ... that's why I'm sure you will out smart me ... I follow Pittsburgh, so I can name most of them .. but the rest ... no clue ... I'm flying by the seat of my pants ;)


... and I love your new skirt TA :D

The Artist
09-23-2011, 08:00 PM
Why thank you. Only problem is that I didn't shave my legs this morning so I'm trying to not move away from my desk too much.

Lith
09-23-2011, 08:08 PM
Find out this week if zombies can survive a good ol fashion spine crushing

Red Kittie Kat
09-23-2011, 08:38 PM
Find out this week if zombies can survive a good ol fashion spine crushing




KITTIE: [TO LITH] Why did you throw me a spine crushing party when you knew I was going out?

LITH: 'Cause it's so much more fun. I mean, this way you can bring your friends to the old-fashioned spine crushing party, and, really, Kittie, everyone loves an old-fashioned spine crushing party.

KITTIE: Please stop saying "old-fashioned spine crushing party." There's no such thing as an old-fashioned spine crushing party. Just because you keep saying "old-fashioned spine crushing party" doesn't mean it exists!

THE ARTIST: I have to tell you, this is a great old-fashioned spine crushing party. Even better than the ones my mom used to throw.

[KITTIE GLARES AT THE ARTIST.]

THE ARTIST: Heh heh heh! I'm laughing because I'm uncomfortable, and I don't know why.






**taken from the old fashioned piano party episode of Will & Grace :D

Bladez
09-23-2011, 08:54 PM
I hate these "game time decisions" on players...I'm going to be paintballing on sunday, and won't be around a computer just before kickoff one of my games on sunday...makes it really hard to decide which player to put in!

Put him in, and take the chance that he'll actually play? Or keep him on the bench and run the risk of loosing his points if he does end up on the field....

Lith
09-23-2011, 09:00 PM
Don't you have some sort of fancy ass phone? You should be able to make transactions from it.

Lith
09-23-2011, 09:01 PM
KITTIE: [TO LITH] Why did you throw me a spine crushing party when you knew I was going out?

LITH: 'Cause it's so much more fun. I mean, this way you can bring your friends to the old-fashioned spine crushing party, and, really, Kittie, everyone loves an old-fashioned spine crushing party.

KITTIE: Please stop saying "old-fashioned spine crushing party." There's no such thing as an old-fashioned spine crushing party. Just because you keep saying "old-fashioned spine crushing party" doesn't mean it exists!

THE ARTIST: I have to tell you, this is a great old-fashioned spine crushing party. Even better than the ones my mom used to throw.

[KITTIE GLARES AT THE ARTIST.]

THE ARTIST: Heh heh heh! I'm laughing because I'm uncomfortable, and I don't know why.






**taken from the old fashioned piano party episode of Will & Grace :D


Aaaaaaand SCENE!

Red Kittie Kat
09-23-2011, 09:02 PM
lmao Lith :D

Bladez
09-23-2011, 09:02 PM
Don't you have some sort of fancy ass phone? You should be able to make transactions from it.

yea, but I don't take my phone out to the field with me. I leave it locked in my car in the parking lot. Tho I may have to start making exceptions...

Lith
09-23-2011, 09:10 PM
Don't forget to check your transactions flyout for trades proposed by other players.
LOOKING AT YOU TA

The Artist
09-26-2011, 02:26 PM
Don't forget to check your transactions flyout for trades proposed by other players.
LOOKING AT YOU TA

Shit guy... yeah I remember getting an e-mail about that. I shall check that out Sir Lithonate

BJMRamage
09-26-2011, 02:39 PM
what a craptastic week for me and Team Rammer.

a few players i had hoped would do something must have just gone onto the field looking for four-leaf clovers. not crazy about Brady but he seems to be the only consistent player on my team.

maynardsayswhat
09-26-2011, 03:56 PM
Why, sweet baby cthulu, why didn't I drop Gates the instant I found out he was injured. WHY???

Not my best week either due to my own failings. Errr.. No wait... I mean to say that it's all part of a larger plan, plot, or something... yeah, that's it... MWAHAHAHA!!!!

Lith
09-26-2011, 04:01 PM
I had Gates in my regular league last season. He was my top scorer, averaging close to 20 points a week, for the first ten weeks then got hurt. I did a little digging and found that he gets hurt and misses significant time every season.

vectorzomby
09-26-2011, 04:15 PM
So I got Vick in the draft :rolleyes:

Broken hand, out 3-4 weeks, greattt. Looks like I'm out of the runnings this season.

Lith
09-26-2011, 04:22 PM
Jesus, you guys are all doom and gloom. It was week three. A lot can still happen.

fwiw - I drafted Vick #5 overall in my regular league so I feel your pain.

BJMRamage
09-26-2011, 04:43 PM
but Vick never gets hurt.

oh wait.

Lith
09-26-2011, 04:45 PM
but Vick never gets hurt.

oh wait.

Now they're saying his hand isn't broken and may not miss time after all.

Audentia
09-26-2011, 04:53 PM
I swear they claim "game time decisions" just to mess with the heads of the other team. It's like Romo, I doubt they won't play him tonight, but they are claiming they might not. Seriously guys, if he came back last week, he's gonna play tonight. I'm thinking the Redskins are not that stupid to assume otherwise. Especially in an inter-divisional match-up.
But alas, they play with us.

Bladez
09-26-2011, 04:55 PM
Geeze, I finally managed to get something happening with my team. Still a few guys who could have done more, so may shuffle 1 or 2 more guys around...but I think things are finally starting to fall into place a bit.

Lith
09-26-2011, 04:59 PM
I swear they claim "game time decisions" just to mess with the heads of the other team. It's like Romo, I doubt they won't play him tonight, but they are claiming they might not. Seriously guys, if he came back last week, he's gonna play tonight. I'm thinking the Redskins are not that stupid to assume otherwise. Especially in an inter-divisional match-up.
But alas, they play with us.

They do. Bellichick had Tom Brady listed as probable every week with a sore shoulder for something like 6 years.

Lith
09-27-2011, 07:19 PM
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/Nando914/sportsfail4.gif

Red Kittie Kat
09-27-2011, 07:20 PM
lmao .. what a dufus :D

BJMRamage
09-27-2011, 07:22 PM
dominoes!

that is such a crazy clip 3-4 things that are just goofy.

Lith
09-27-2011, 07:27 PM
Looks like maybe CFL. 10 yard endzones

The Artist
09-27-2011, 07:37 PM
I would stand up for my Canadian Football League but you're right... it blows.

Go Als Go!! :D

Bladez
09-27-2011, 07:41 PM
Nope...neither of those are CFL teams....me thinks College or Community ball.

BJMRamage
09-27-2011, 07:41 PM
are they (CFL) a 3-down game?
I'm trying to remember when we were part of the CFL (I think it was them) with the Baltimore Colts/Stallions.

They had the uprights in the middle of the endzone, rather than the back and the field was wider or longer maybe??


I was almost thinking an indoor league

Lith
09-27-2011, 07:50 PM
are they (CFL) a 3-down game?
I'm trying to remember when we were part of the CFL (I think it was them) with the Baltimore Colts/Stallions.

They had the uprights in the middle of the endzone, rather than the back and the field was wider or longer maybe??


I was almost thinking an indoor league

You're thinking of the AFL, which merged with the NFL in the late 60's/early 70's. A lot of the teams in the AFC came in that merger. I think they moved the goalpost to the back sometime around that same time as a player safety issue.

I was thinking Canadian Football League because he's spiking it after an apparent touchdown and the endzone behind him looks pretty big. 10 yard endzones in the CFL and I think the fields like 10 yards wider too

Bladez
09-27-2011, 07:54 PM
Uprights are at the front of the endzone. Our field is 10 yards longer, and it's wider.

So, we have farther to run, but with more space to run, and 3 downs.

However, we don't have to kick as far (because of where the uprights are; kicking from the 40 means you're actually kicking 40 yards) and the clock doesn't keep running between plays like it does in the NFL.

And we have what Audi likes to call the "Pity Point".
Team punts the ball into the end zone, and the receiver either lets it die, or puts a knee down (without being tackled, it's not a safety) it's a single point to the punting team, and the receiving team gets the ball at the 25 yard line to start their possession.

BJMRamage
09-27-2011, 07:57 PM
no Lith I am thinking CFL.

this was the early-mid '90s and our NFL Colts left in the '80s and we didn't get the Ravens until afterward.

at least based on what Bladez here says.

Lith
09-27-2011, 08:01 PM
And we have what Audi likes to call the "Pity Point".
Team punts the ball into the end zone, and the receiver either lets it die, or puts a knee down (without being tackled, it's not a safety) it's a single point to the punting team, and the receiving team gets the ball at the 25 yard line to start their possession.

The NFL has the same thing. They call it a touchback, no points are awarded and you get the ball at the 20.

Bladez
09-27-2011, 08:01 PM
And yes, BJ...there used to be some American teams in the CFL.

The Baltimore Stallions (1994-1995) are the ones you're thinking of. There was also:

Birmingham Barracudas
Las Vegas Posse
Memphis Mad Dogs
Sacramento Gold Miners
San Antonio Texans
Shreveport Pirates

Bladez
09-27-2011, 08:02 PM
The NFL has the same thing. They call it a touchback, no points are awarded and you get the ball at the 20.

Hence why Audi calls it the Pity Point *LOL*

"We'll let you take the ball at the 20....but you've gotta give us 1 point first!"

Lith
09-27-2011, 08:04 PM
And yes, BJ...there used to be some American teams in the CFL.

The Baltimore Stallions (1994-1995) are the ones you're thinking of. There was also:

Birmingham Barracudas
Las Vegas Posse
Memphis Mad Dogs
Sacramento Gold Miners
San Antonio Texans
Shreveport Pirates

Wow. Stumped the shit out of me. I've never even heard of any of those teams.

Bladez
09-27-2011, 08:06 PM
hahaha. the Stallions, Texans and Gold Miners (I think) are the only 3 that lasted more than 1 season. They all made it 2, and the stallions actually won the Grey Cup in their second season.

Lith
09-27-2011, 08:06 PM
Hence why Audi calls it the Pity Point *LOL*

"We'll let you take the ball at the 20....but you've gotta give us 1 point first!"

That must make for some pretty strange scores. One NFL game this weekend was 5-2 for a bit. First time I'd seen that

Bladez
09-27-2011, 08:08 PM
The Stallions actually became the Montreal Alouettes (the crappy team that TA cheers for)

BJMRamage
09-27-2011, 08:09 PM
I saw that Lith! that was funny! my wife and I had to do a double-take.

and yeah I thought the Stallions won the championship but couldn't remember the title name. So Baltimore has one 3 titles in 3 different football leagues.

Red Kittie Kat
09-27-2011, 08:18 PM
It's Kerwin Bell from the Winnipeg Blue Bombers ;)

http://www.break.com/index/quarterback-spikes-himself-in-balls2.html

Bladez
09-27-2011, 08:22 PM
Actually, the guy that nuts himself is a Toronto Argonaut...he takes down a Blue Bomber.

Their uniforms look black and white on my monitor, that's why I couldn't figure it out. Supposed to be blue and white....(The bombers are the ones in the white and gold)

Red Kittie Kat
09-27-2011, 08:41 PM
oh ok ... I just went by the different articles saying it was Kerwin :p

The Artist
09-27-2011, 08:50 PM
The Stallions actually became the Montreal Alouettes (the crappy team that TA cheers for)

Crappy team? Pretty sure we kill it every year.

Suck it Bladez.

Audentia
09-28-2011, 02:58 PM
Only because you have a zombie of a QB there Artist. I mean seriously when will you all let go of Cavillo and realize that it's unfair to play a zombie against us all.

It's a pity point because why on earth would you get a point for kicking the ball far? It's retarded.
I may be Canadian and love football but I grew up with a Dad that loves sports, but especially NFL. We watched some CFL but rarely. It was all about watching the Steelers (his team) and when I was 12 I started loving Troy Aikman and never looked back, and of course, still love the cowboys today.

Bladez
09-28-2011, 03:09 PM
They only get the point of the receiver lets the ball die, or touches down a knee. If he decides to run with it, they don't get the point...but then may only get to the 5 yard line. Like I said...it's more of a "We'll give you 1 point if you let us start at the 20" type thing.... How Canadian......

BJMRamage
10-03-2011, 04:24 PM
awesome! I lost another game!!
or is this Golf scoring?

gotta love the players who have 0 (zero) points and are in the 3rd quarter.

the only plus I see in all this...the sole week I won, is the week the Ravens lost. I would love to lose the remainder games if that means a win for the Ravens—well, next week they have a bye, so not sure what will happen.

Lith
10-03-2011, 04:30 PM
Looks like I knocked et from the ranks of the undefeated. He did have a WR in his line-up that is out for the season. I let him know on fb and he said he was on it. Guess not. :rolleyes: It's not how I prefer to win but I'll take it :D

Bladez
10-03-2011, 04:50 PM
Lith breaks ET's win streak, and I broke Audis. Not a good weekend for the "Undefeated"

Audentia
10-03-2011, 05:15 PM
boooo!
And my cowboys are on bye week next week. Crap better move some guys around.

Lith
10-03-2011, 05:19 PM
And my cowboys are on bye week next week. Crap better move some guys around.

I've been waiting to see how this works out.

Red Kittie Kat
10-03-2011, 09:35 PM
I did splendidly again I see lmao :D

Lith
10-04-2011, 03:31 PM
Bye weeks start this week. FYI

BJMRamage
10-04-2011, 03:35 PM
i have to drop a player to the bench...though as my starters have been playing it really doesn't matter.

Lith
10-04-2011, 03:40 PM
You could probably drop Jamaal all together. He's not coming back

BJMRamage
10-04-2011, 03:43 PM
Yeah I was thinking that last night.
I really need some help in the RB/WR area anyway...just need to find the right guys. I thought I had a few decent players and added a player...but then injuries.

Audentia
10-05-2011, 02:30 PM
I'm so confused. HELP!

I have an empty slot on my bench... but I can't seem to fill it with a waiver or free agent player. If I move someone off my team onto the bench it still won't fill the spot.
How do I get it to fill the empty spot instead of asking me to drop someone to get the guy I want?

Bladez
10-05-2011, 02:43 PM
I have that too. You only get 16 players on your team, but they provide you with 17 slots...not sure why it leaves you with 1 open spot....

Lith?

Lith
10-05-2011, 03:01 PM
You really don't have an extra spot on your bench you have an empty one. You can only put players from your starting lineup here. Say you're defense is playing on Monday night and you're beating your fantasy opponent by 2 points. You can move your D to the bench to make sure they don't get you negative points, thereby losing you the game. It's a real cheeseball maneuver but I have done it and had it done against me. A couple of years ago there was a real big stink about it

Bladez
10-05-2011, 03:31 PM
I thought it locked all your players/positions in so that you can't move them...

Lith
10-05-2011, 03:46 PM
It locks them 10 minutes (I think it's ten) before the game they're playing in starts. So you can make moves for the afternoon games while the morning ones are being played, Sunday night game while the afternoon ones are being played, etc... If you have players in the previous games though they will be locked and unmovable, so the longer you wait the tougher it gets to make roster changes.

When you (Bladez) played Red (and got beat) she had an empty spot in her starting lineup and all of her players were locked. She had a player on her bench that was without a team, therefore unlocked. She was able to drop him and pick up a player for the Monday night game at the position that she was missing. Players on bye will remain unlocked that entire week.

Hope that makes sense

Audentia
10-05-2011, 04:31 PM
Ah ok. Thanks for the explanation! And yes it seems a little silly but I see why it might be helpful.

GrittyKitty
10-06-2011, 02:48 AM
One of my fave football minnutiae is that the Baltimore Ravens are named from Edgar Allen Poe's poem.
My Fave: Pats (Yes, I'm the lunch meat in the Wes Welker, Tom Brady sammich), then the Saints and the Ravens. Loathe Dallas, Miami and the Giants.

Lith
10-06-2011, 02:41 PM
One of my fave football minnutiae is that the Baltimore Ravens are named from Edgar Allen Poe's poem.
My Fave: Pats (Yes, I'm the lunch meat in the Wes Welker, Tom Brady sammich), then the Saints and the Ravens. Loathe Dallas, Miami and the Giants.

YEAH! F THE COWBOYS!!!!

*ducks*

Red Kittie Kat
10-06-2011, 02:49 PM
Audi is going to hurt you :D

BJMRamage
10-06-2011, 03:12 PM
she wouldn't like to "F the cowboys"??

Bladez
10-06-2011, 03:34 PM
No...just Aikman....

BJMRamage
10-06-2011, 03:42 PM
oh so Aikman from the start and forevermore.

Audentia
10-06-2011, 04:39 PM
oh so Aikman from the start and forevermore.

EXACTLY!
My love affair with him started when I was a mere 12 I think.
And I've been loyal ever since.

You can all be jealous of my cowboys, you just wish your teams had as many championships. :)

Bladez
10-06-2011, 04:51 PM
and convictions....

Lith
10-11-2011, 04:54 PM
Alright, it looks like et’s not gonna participate. I was wondering if we should dump his players onto waivers so the people that have shitty teams have a shot at his decent players (depending on waiver order) to kinda even things up a bit, or just let it ride? Up to you guys.

If I dump his players I’d probably just fill his roster with a bunch of scrubs. Basically a guaranteed win every week. Not exactly sure how that would work but I didn’t want to do anything without putting it out there first.

Let me know what you guys think.

Audentia
10-11-2011, 04:57 PM
I'd be fine with putting them on waivers.
Is there not a way to just delete his team at this point?
Though I suppose it makes sense if there isn't.

My only concern with making it an automatic win is that that is a disadvantage to some as ET has beat 3 teams already, so that is an immediate disadvantage to have a loss that is now a guaranteed win. I don't suppose we can revise his wins/losses?

Audentia
10-11-2011, 04:57 PM
Or, to stay fair we could just leave his team as it is, it hasn't changed much since the start and it stays more or less fair for everyone, maybe that is the smartest thing to do...

BJMRamage
10-11-2011, 05:06 PM
I guess I won't get that player i tried to trade him for.
so did he stop playing?
I noticed 2-3 players on BYE this week when i played him....good for me though. (it was like he didn;t change the roster)

Lith
10-11-2011, 05:07 PM
I had thought about the teams he'd already beat. I figured with one player on IR (out for season) in his starting lineup and players going on bye it's close to a guaranteed win anyway. I could just go in and put whatever players he has into his lineup according to ranking. Or just leave it. Or dump them all. Makes no difference to me, I already beat him. He's really only got 5 or 6 players most people would be interested in.

Lith
10-11-2011, 05:08 PM
so did he stop playing?

Never started. I let him know on fb when Kenny Britt went down for the season and he said he was "on it" and that was the end of that.

Lith
10-11-2011, 05:09 PM
He does have four quarterbacks for some strange reason. Stupid auto-draft.

Lith
10-11-2011, 05:13 PM
I could of sworn there was somebody that wanted in but it was too late. Can't seem to find the post. I can assign his team to somebody if anybody's interested

BJMRamage
10-11-2011, 05:20 PM
OK. I saw that on FB. and figured he'd changed something as by the time I played, I forgot who it was.

He's got some good players. I wouldn't have minded getting. (I know you'll say just because I'm a fan, I want them but 2 players on his team are good point getters and one on the bench has some potential.)

The Artist
10-11-2011, 05:21 PM
*Creates GDF Username*
*Joins GDF Fantasy Football*
*Trades all good players over to Canadian Bald Beavers*

#Winning.

Lith
10-11-2011, 05:23 PM
*Creates GDF Username*
*Joins GDF Fantasy Football*
*Trades all good players over to Canadian Bald Beavers*

#Winning.

Didn't you just score 130 something?


He's got some good players. I wouldn't have minded getting. (I know you'll say just because I'm a fan, I want them but 2 players on his team are good point getters and one on the bench has some potential.)

There's a couple I wouldn't mind taking a shot at either

BJMRamage
10-11-2011, 05:25 PM
I tried trading for a benched guy figuring since he never played him maybe I could have a shot since some of my players at that position weren't doing hot.

Red Kittie Kat
10-11-2011, 05:58 PM
it's official ... I suck! lmao :D

I can't pick a winning team to save my life :p

As for ET ... if we ditch his team one of us will be on a bye each week ... do we want that ? ;)

Lith
10-11-2011, 06:16 PM
Bye weeks suck. I just had mine in my other league

Bladez
10-11-2011, 07:09 PM
If he's not updating his lines, its going to make it easier for whichever team plays him regardless I think. I'd be good with either his team just staying as is, or to open it up for trades.

Audentia
10-11-2011, 08:38 PM
agreed I don't want a bye week either.

If you open up to waivers then everyone has to have put in their request beforehand to get them right?
So those of us online today have maybe done that for players, but what about those not around?

Sorry guys, I just think that allowing the players to be pulled by only the people currently online is unfair. And I think it's unfair to allow his 3 wins to affect those teams. (which is not me btw, I'm just advocating fairness)

Lith
10-11-2011, 09:02 PM
No. The waiver order is the inverse of the standings. If you look at your team, under your team name it has your waiver order. Right now I'm waiver order 10 because I'm in first (go me!) so if I put a claim on a player everybody else would have to pass him up in order for me to get him. Red's in last and is waiver order 1 so anybody she wanted she could get. That's what made me decide to put this out there. The lower ranked (crappier:p) teams would have first chance at his good players.

The Waivers process Wednesdays @ 3 am eastern time, which we can move back.

Audentia
10-12-2011, 04:24 PM
Ah I didn't understand that... got it Lith.
In that case I'm cool with whatever is decided. :)

Audentia
10-12-2011, 04:29 PM
I'm confused... can I even make a claim to try and get one of ET's players right now? Or do we have to wait for you to release them Lith?

Lith
10-12-2011, 04:41 PM
The only way you could get one now would be to ask him to trade one of his players for one of yours and have him accept. If I dropped his players on to waivers (that what they call the list of available players) then you would put in a claim for one, in turn dropping one of your players to waivers, and if nobody with a higher waiver order also had a claim on that guy you would get him.

It's how they try to equal things out. The worse the team the better chance they have of getting the better players that are on waivers.

Audentia
10-12-2011, 05:15 PM
Ah ok.

I assume you'll let us know what majority want and go from there?

Audentia
10-17-2011, 01:41 AM
Ok guys... This is no fun if people aren't going to play. There are at least 3 people that didn't log on at all this week as they had players on bye week playing. (like 3-4 players). Makes for no competition.
Also we need to do something about Eugene if we're going to cause people are loosing to him and it's not fair if we're going to kill his team.
So what's up with everyone??

BJMRamage
10-17-2011, 02:15 AM
I'm playing.

I'd like a few of Eugene's guys but fine with whatever. Funny to see him sometimes make decent wins without actually playing.

Red Kittie Kat
10-17-2011, 03:05 AM
sort of pisses me off lol ... I try to figure it all out and can't get sh*t ... he ignores it and runs away with the game .... Arrrrgh!! lol :D

Bladez
10-17-2011, 03:24 PM
It definitely is frustrating to lose to somebody who's announced that he doesn't want to play and has just walked away from it...

BJMRamage
10-17-2011, 03:27 PM
did you Bladez?

lose to Eugene? think you were playing him.

Red Kittie Kat
10-17-2011, 03:58 PM
I really don't get this whole "bye" thing either ... I guess I'm stupid .. but it's frustrating to say the least .. I have 4 players on bye ... that helps a lot :rolleyes:

tried to change it and nothing is different ....

Well at least I AM trying to play lol :D

BJMRamage
10-17-2011, 04:03 PM
NFL teams not playing that week means some players won't be scoring points...hence the BYE for our league terms.

So in order to avoid not have a ZERO point player that is on a BYE week, you need to swap out to players on teams that are playing.

Red Kittie Kat
10-17-2011, 04:15 PM
I tried that ... it didn't work lol :D


could be user error ;)

Bladez
10-17-2011, 04:17 PM
Kittie, after you move your players, do you click the "Submit" button at the top or bottom of the page?

could be why you make your changes, but it always reverts back. It shows the change in your lineup right away, but it won't commit them until you submit it.

Red Kittie Kat
10-17-2011, 04:20 PM
yep ... I hit submit ...

I'm pretty sure I am doing it the right way. I can't even swap any one out for another player .. the ones on the bench are on a bye too .... so I tried to switch players ... that didn't work either.

I'll keep plugging along ... but it's discouraging to say the least.

Ok .. I'm done complaining ... just venting a bit I guess ;)

Bladez
10-17-2011, 04:22 PM
really weird that your changes are going through then. I've bounced players around a fair bit with no trouble...

Audentia
10-17-2011, 04:39 PM
You can't move your players until tomorrow morning RKK. Maybe try then and if you have trouble then let us know. Someone could log-in and Skype with you so that share screen is on and show you how to do it.

There are others though not just Eugene. Cookie appears to have not visited and left numerous bye week players in the rooster.

Red Kittie Kat
10-17-2011, 04:45 PM
ahh that could be it then .. I wasn't sure of the timeline of when things can get changed. I guess I screwed myself not checking earlier on bye players ... too many things to do and not enough hours in the day some days lol ;)

Thanks gang♥♥

BJMRamage
10-17-2011, 05:06 PM
I hate the SUBMIT button.
The first time I did a change-up I saw it change but didn't hit submit. that sucked for that week.

maynardsayswhat
10-17-2011, 07:11 PM
Yep, I'm terrible. Didn't realize that half my team was on bye weeks until I was sitting down to a sirloin and Guinness to watch the Pats/Cowboys game.

You have all been saved from Team Cookie's terrible wrath this week!

=)

Lith
10-18-2011, 01:29 AM
It definitely is frustrating to lose to somebody who's announced that he doesn't want to play and has just walked away from it...

Did I miss an announcement? Last I heard he was "on it." Or is his inaction the announcement?

Audentia
10-18-2011, 04:59 PM
^ Doesn't appear that he did anything with his team and I know Bladez tried to propose a trade but Eugene has not accepted or declined.

Lith
10-18-2011, 05:14 PM
I figured since people are still getting beat by him we'll just leave it be. If you play him when his dudes are on bye or injured - lucky you. :(

Lith
10-18-2011, 05:15 PM
I double up on TA this week too. Just sayin.

Red Kittie Kat
10-18-2011, 05:35 PM
I think all my players are playing :D woo hoo lol

Lith
10-27-2011, 10:20 PM
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/Nando914/the-late-dar-8.jpg

The Artist
10-28-2011, 01:04 PM
That's Bladez isn't it...

garricks
10-28-2011, 01:11 PM
That's Bladez isn't it...

Nah, too meaty.


:p

Lith
10-28-2011, 03:03 PM
Nah, too meaty.


:p

Maybe it's his torso.

Bladez
10-28-2011, 04:24 PM
Maybe it's his torso.

not white enough then....

Lith
11-07-2011, 05:09 PM
Looks like we've lost TA and Vectorzombie as well as Eugene

BJMRamage
11-07-2011, 05:21 PM
really?
wow, The fun to me is I think I am going to win a match and then as my players collapse into crap on the field I end up losing. (Looking at you sissy-boy Brady...I think I will swap out him for Tebow next week and see how that treats me.)

I had a friend who was going to do a FFL with a group he is in but they never got it off the ground and said he'd like being in my group next year. I am up for it again next year. I take a day to plan my players and watch me lose on Sunday/Monday...it is kind of fun/=, especially with NFL RedZone to watch lots of games.

Lith
11-07-2011, 05:49 PM
I think people lose a game or two and give up.

BJMRamage
11-07-2011, 05:58 PM
sad. I win a game or two and "think I can, I think I can..."

and it gets me "rooting" for another team/players for a while.
which is fun and totally less stressful then say, watching the Ravens play.

The Artist
11-07-2011, 06:07 PM
Sorry guys, it wasn't the "I lost a game, F it" I have just been so busy after work with the company stuff that's it's taking up a lot of my time. I'm in a hockey pool with my buddies too and I have barely touched it.

Works a lot busier than I thought it would be right now.

My apologies <3

vectorzomby
11-07-2011, 06:30 PM
I kinda forgot about it :| maybe I should have signed up for the email reminders lol. I'll try to look at it later.

BJMRamage
11-07-2011, 06:51 PM
Those email reminders help. I get them before and afterward.

Before Email: you have a good chance of winning
After Email: you didn't win what a bunch of losers you have

The Artist
11-07-2011, 07:02 PM
Damn I should set those up too

Red Kittie Kat
11-08-2011, 02:32 PM
I never win .. but I keep plugging along :D

I'm still recovering from having my spine crushed :p

Lith
11-08-2011, 04:11 PM
I never win .. but I keep plugging along :D

I'm still recovering from having my spine crushed :p

The prognosis is not good...

The Artist
11-08-2011, 07:43 PM
I'm still recovering from having my spine crushed :p

2 Weekly doses of TA will solve that.