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[defjoe]

I just love poitning these jobs out


Job Title:
Graphic Designer

Category:
Art Direction / Graphic Design

location:
Boca Raton

Level:
Entry Level

Type:
Full Time

Salary Range:
Under $30,000

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Job Summary:
We are looking for a entry-level designer. You will be responsible for designing initial concepts and working with our web developers to complete interactive projects. This position requires working within the project team performing design, layout and graphic production for design portion of the each project.

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Job Requirements:
2-3 yrs exp in interactive & traditional design 1. Adv. Photoshop 2. Advanced Illustrator 3. Advanced Dreamweaver 4. Good working knowledge of Flash 5. Strong design acumen This position is only suited for someone who: -Works well in a team environment -Is detailed-oriented -Enjoys the creative process & flow of ideas -Feels good customer service begins with creating a good product -Likes learning new technologies -Works well under tight deadlines -Solid organizational skills</font>

so it's ENTRY LEVEL

but they want this person to have ADVANCED PS, ILLY and DW skills and at least 2-3 years experience (and you know they aren't talking schooling). all for under $30K

This industry never ceases to amaze me.

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[morea]

my response to that would have to be ----> /DesktopModules/dotNetBB/emoticons/bootyshake.gif

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[uncle carbunkle]

you'll love this one, then:

Jr. Graphic Designer

Position Type: Full Time
Position Level: Junior
Salary Range: $8.00-$12.00 per Hour (<-YESSIRREE! THAT'S CANADIAN, TOO!)
Date Posted: 11/03/05
location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Job Description

Must have knowledge of Photoshop and illustrator. Good phone skills required. Good English speaking is also required. Will be doing some work as well as graphic designing. 7-11 months experience.

WHAT?!? i was almost in there, for less than i'd make at mcdonalds but without the free lunch, only they advertised that you'd also have to do some work...damn.

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[defjoe]

that's so funny.

well doing WORK?

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[Patrick Shannon]

Sadly DefJoe, as long as that amount is not TOO under 30,000 I'd probably hop on that in a second (I want no less than 27,000 - 29,000, I currently make under 20,000).

That Canadian job is quite hilarious.

At one job I interviewed for, it was Krey Distributing...a distributor for Anheiser Busch. Very expensive, nice building. Even though they used Corel Draw exclusively (ugh), the positives (what I knew of the position so far) outweighed the negatives so I definitely pursued that. Their work was definitely portfolio worthy, though a bit 'template-ish.'

Despite a sucessful interview, I never heard back, and I came to find out why. My career counselor phoned me up and said that the hiring woman had phoned her, and that too many designers being sent her way was demanding way too much money. To make a long story short, she only wanted to pay $7.00 a hour. My counselor's response was 'You are NEVER going to get a good artist for that amount.'

I guess it doesn't surprise me that the other graphic designer I met there during the interview struck me as the 'housewife' type.

Patrick Shannon

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[Neuro]

I agree with Patrick. I make far less than 30,000 and I probably do twice as much as what they would expect that person to do. Prepress work and design work. Not enough design work though. I really need to find a new job!

That Canadian job is pretty bad. Makes me kind of think of the position I am in now. Hmmmm....

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[DivineDesign]

i would like to know this. I never understood it. I was looking up GD jobs the other day, and i see all these 'entry-level' jobs available. right? Ok. So I assume (please correct me if i am wrong) that 'entry-level' means that pretty much you are a newbie who has just graduated. So, then, a few lines down on the job description, they say 'must have 2-3 years on the job/ GD/ web/ whatever experience'. I do not get this. If i am ENTRY LEVEL, how am i gonna have 2-3 years experience aside from school and maybe an internship if you had one???? Can someone PLEASE explain this to me?

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[D-Frag]

that is stupid, but guess what, i make a whole shitload less then that, and im pretty content.....must be nice to land the big 'Art Director' positions.....


oh yeah, and I think im gonna be an Art Director....more info coming soon : )

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[morea]

details, D-Frag! We need details!!!

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[D-Frag]

ill let ya all know tomorrow what this company says that ive been contracting with....it looks very good, but we will see...

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[defjoe]

Patrick and Neuro... I feel for you guys and i hate to hear these stories cause it is so wrong. the problem is the preception of what we do. the majority of people that hire GD are non GD and that is an issue. Cause they think it's a 'fun' and 'easy' job. so they can pay us less. It's crap. Sure what we do can be fun. but it is also a TALENT. Not everyone can do it. you can't really LEARN to do this job. you either have it or not. Cause if you LEARN it you won't go above production artist (for the most part).

I hope you guys get better.

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'I'm the damn designer, bitches!'

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[Russian girl]

No job, no salary, no type, just a student at Graphic School

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[DeleteYourself]

Is the company name listed? I work in Boca. Are they trying to replace me with someone who commonds a lower salary?

Thanks, defjoe, now I'm all paranoid. /DesktopModules/dotNetBB/emoticons/frusty.gif

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[LimedDesign]

Umm... quick question if you all don't mind. What excatly is the difference between Art Director and a Graphid Designer?

Without language, there is NO concept...

[Bear]

an art director asks for something to be moved 3 pixels to the left
a graphic designer moves things 3 pixels to the left......and one pixel back to the right ?

I don't know actually

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