how to make something look squished...

[shirbit]

not sure I posted this in the right spot...I'm sure I'll be 'told' if that's the case http://graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/blink.gif

can someone tell me how I can make a logo look like it's being squashed by the corner of a box?

[Keyare]

In what software/platform?
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[shirbit]

I've got an eps logo...and I'm working on creating the entire thing in photoshop...but wasn't sure if I could get the logo to look squished in illustrator or photoshop...

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Post Edited (shirbit) : 2/26/2004 12:14:53 AM GMT

[Keyare]

I could tell you how to do it in Corel easily but I only use Illustrator for opening and saving .ai's these days so I'd probably sound like an idiot trying to describe it. It's called 'envelope' in Corel, don't recall what it's called in Illustrator.

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[D-Frag]

'squashed by the corner of a box'- I don't remember learning that particular effect in college....anyone want to help me out on translation? hehe


http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/13115/Profile_2.jpg

[shirbit]

thx....d-frag's feeling funny today?

sb

[Gavin Joule]

Shirbet... maybe be a little more elaborate in your description...

Do you mean as if it was printed on a box that got squished?
Do you mean a box fell on it and squished it?
Do you mean a lady fel... erm... forget that one ;)

Try using a mesh to distort it under Filter > Liquify
or distort it using the various distortion effects...

Sounds like you will need to use a number of techniques to get what you are after...

http://www.gavinjouledesign.com/www-docs/resourses/whattoput.gif

[shirbit]

sorry for lack to detail...#2 is the right answer. I didn't quite get my squished look but I used a shatter filter on the logo...it looks 'ok' not 'great'....thx.

sb

[LTG]

Keyare said...
I could tell you how to do it in Corel easily but I only use Illustrator for opening and saving .ai's these days so I'd probably sound like an idiot trying to describe it. It's called "envelope" in Corel, don't recall what it's called in Illustrator.
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Do you use Corel because you think it's better?

You all have probably had this debate before but which is better Corel Draw or Illustrator? I had Corel draw years ago (ver. 4) and thought it was fine at the time (wasn't using itverymuch thenanyway) but all I hear about these days is Illustrator and since I want to use PS, InDesign and Illustrator together I thought it was about time I learned it. If you do like it better, why specifically?

If it wasn't for the last minute nothing would ever get done.

[Keyare]

I think it's better of course, but I have no real proof to back it up.

I have Illustrator, but all my files are in corel...so..that's what i use. I can do absolutely anything in Corel that you can do in Illustrator, I think.I haven't had anyone test that theory. So there's no reason for me to switch.

Unlike Photopaint and Photoshop. Photopaint is a great program and you can do everything in it that you can do in photoshop, but...photoshop is just...smoother, better, can't really explain it.

If you were going to use Indesign and PS I would see no reason NOT to use Illustrator - and no benefit to using Corel in your position.

Except you get a lot of fonts with corel.. Yup, lots of fonts.

I don't think we've really debated this one actually. Why don't you start a thread? This would be kinda hidden here.

Be vewy vewy quiet...we're hunting umlauts.

[Cowtoon]

On CorelDraw ("CD") vs. Illustrator (ILL). I know that CD creates vector drawings. Does ILL create vector or bitmap drawings? Drawings in ILL seem to behave like bitmaps. I can't seem to copy ILL drawings to CD or import for manipulation. I can import CADD drawings into ILL and not CD. This doesn't makes sense to me. Has anyone else run into this. I prefer to work with CorelDraw. I've used it since version 4. It took a few months, but I finally talked the company I'm working for to get CorelDraw. My two predecessors tried and weren't successful. I can't say I was disappointed.

[LTG]

Keyare said...
I think it's better of course, but I have no real proof to back it up.

I have Illustrator, but all my files are in corel...so..that's what i use. I can do absolutely anything in Corel that you can do in Illustrator, I think.I haven't had anyone test that theory. So there's no reason for me to switch.

Unlike Photopaint and Photoshop. Photopaint is a great program and you can do everything in it that you can do in photoshop, but...photoshop is just...smoother, better, can't really explain it.

If you were going to use Indesign and PS I would see no reason NOT to use Illustrator - and no benefit to using Corel in your position.

Except you get a lot of fonts with corel.. Yup, lots of fonts.

I don't think we've really debated this one actually. Why don't you start a thread? This would be kinda hidden here.
</div>Would you mind explaining the differences you see or the reason you like corel better? I just haven't used either one enough to compare features. Or is it kind of like the quark/indesign debate where sometimes it just comes down to quark addicts (like me) liking quark better because they are so familiar with it and the keyboard shortcuts that become automatic after a while. I want to use Indesign more (because I think it actually has some better features) but if I'm pressed for time I always go back to quark.
(Interesting black lines in your post. . .?)(My apologies to shirbit for takingyour post inan unrelateddirection.)

If it wasn't for the last minute nothing would ever get done.

[PrintDriver]

Cowtoon, Illustrator is a vector program. You get bitmappy when you import an Illustrator eps into Quark. I think you have to save Illustrator drawings as eps to get them into Corel, at least any of my clients that have Corel save to eps for me to get them into Illustrator. As for Cad drawings, eww. Unless the Cad draftsman knows what he's doing, talk about a mess.

Key, you have a hidden message there. How'd you manage to black out the text? (Was able to read it by swiping over it with the mouse.)

Specialization is for insects...

R.H.

[LTG]

Thanks for the tip PD - I wasn't smart enough to even try that.

Very cool, Keyare - how'd you do that? I will do as you suggested.

If it wasn't for the last minute nothing would ever get done.

[PrintDriver]

Poor Shirbit sure ain't getting his squished box here is he?

Specialization is for insects...

R.H.

[D-Zine]

ROFLMFAO!!!! hehe

http://coastalcarousel.com/GDF/metatag3.jpg

Who says doodling isn't constructive?!

[Cowtoon]

To PrintDriver,
I can import Ill files into CorelDraw, but they are not editable (other than resizing or cropping). It's no different than say, importing a jpg ... result when I import the CAD files. When I have the CADD file open ... it's all editable. When I import to CorelDraw ... well ... again ... just like importing a jpg. Wouldn't exporting the Ill file to eps make it a bitmap? Thanks for your suggestions. Perhaps there's some huge concept I'm not understanding.

[PrintDriver]

Cowtoon-
Keyare needs to jump in on this one as I don't have CorelDraw. You may need to start a new thread as we are way off topic here.

Cad files are editable in Illustrator if the draftsman who sends them knows what he is doing (closed polylines and dxf, and watch out for font issues).

Vector eps files from Corel and Freehand are editable in Illustrator as vector art (I'm assuming some of the stuff I get is from Corel). Freehand actually exports as .ai files so it's even cooler. There are vector eps and raster eps files. That's why we laugh (we're really crying) when we request vector eps files and get a raster eps placed in Illustrator...

Specialization is for insects...

R.H.

[indigo]

shirbit--

these instructions are for illustrator--vector:

have the eps file selected
EFFECT-->WARP-->ARC
set bend parameter to a negative value
leave other parameters alone
this will squish the logo.


these instructions are for photoshop 7--bitmap, raster:

open the eps, it will be rasterized.
FILTER-->LIQUIFY
this will open the liquify window
choose the warp tool, the one on top--left side.
select an enormous brush, like 500+
drag from the top of the image to the bottom, it will be squished.


hope this is the effect you were looking for.

use a smaller brush in photoshop to apply the squish to only one corner. too bad this doesn't work with a square brush

Post Edited (indigo) : 3/3/2004 9:04:14 AM GMT

[Fusiondesigner]

Yah liqufy it... otherwise use the pen tool

take the kids to see a replica of what never was...

[shirbit]

thanks...and hey... a little more than I asked for isn't always a bad thing right? /emoticons/smile.gif

sb