redundancy

[billdakelski]

This forum would be much improved by eliminating the competing redundant forums, If you look in Software, Adobe Procucts, and Design Issues, you will find posts that could fit in any of those. This limits how many people will see a particular post, unless they go to all three.

Software covers it

Does this seems obvious to anyone else?

[Patrick Shannon]

But how does design issues directly compete with the Adobe forum? There are many design issues I could bring up without ever having to touch Adobe. Then if there wasn't seperate catagories for the software (Adobe, Corel), the forum could pile up and cause confusion (for example, if I asked a question in a Corel forum, it would be assumed that I'm using a Corel product.)

Yes, certain posts would belong better to other catagories, but that's up to the user themselves.

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[morea]

if I have a software question I post it in the specific area (adobe, macromedia, corel, etc) instead of the 'software' section.

design issues... now to me that is something completely different. trouble brainstorming, stuff like that.

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[D-Zine]

If I had an Adobe software issue...I would put it in the forum marked...'Adobe' /DesktopModules/dotNetBB/emoticons/smilewinkgrin.gif
It's more specific and will get more responses.

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[PrintDriver]

The moderators try to keep up with people posting in the wrong section. Most newbs are too lazy to read all of the forum titles and just post in the Forum Questions and Comments forum rather than any of the 3 you mentioned. It's pretty much up to the user to figure out where to put the question. We only help a little. We do delete duplicate posts however so choose wisely. LOL!

The forums aren't competing or redundant.
Adobe should go in Adobe.
Macromedia should go in macromedia
Quark in Quark
Issues are general design issues unassociated with software.
Software is for software and OS's not covered in other forums.

It isn't so difficult once you get used to the place. Hang around and check it out before wanting to change a thing on your third post that has worked for 2 years.

PD is a grande format digital print dude. His advice/opinions may not apply to the 4color/offset/web world of printing

[billdakelski]

Patrick Shannon said...
But how does design issues directly compete with the Adobe forum? There are many design issues I could bring up without ever having to touch Adobe. Then if there wasn't seperate catagories for the software (Adobe, Corel), the forum could pile up and cause confusion (for example, if I asked a question in a Corel forum, it would be assumed that I'm using a Corel product.)

Yes, certain posts would belong better to other catagories, but that's up to the user themselves.

The header on the catagory is 'Issues' not Design Issues, consequentially if you look at the posts only a few of them have to do with design, most are software and techinical issues.

I am not sure how it could cause confusion or pile-up since there are too many post to look at anyway without doing a search.

It is up to the poster only the responding users have no choice.

[morea]

damn, not to be obnoxious or anything, but I thought that this was pretty self-explanatory...

We are one, our cause is one, and we must help each other if we are to succeed. ~ Frederick Douglass

[billdakelski]

PrintDriver said...
The moderators try to keep up with people posting in the wrong section. Most newbs are too lazy to read all of the forum titles and just post in the Forum Questions and Comments forum rather than any of the 3 you mentioned. It's pretty much up to the user to figure out where to put the question. We only help a little. We do delete duplicate posts however so choose wisely. LOL!

The forums aren't competing or redundant.
Adobe should go in Adobe.
Macromedia should go in macromedia
Quark in Quark
Issues are general design issues unassociated with software.
Software is for software and OS's not covered in other forums.

It isn't so difficult once you get used to the place. Hang around and check it out before wanting to change a thing on your third post that has worked for 2 years.

Perhaps if it was improved the moderators would not have to try to keep up with people posting in the wrong section, looks like they are a bit behind.

I don't agree that the newbys are lazy there confused, and rightly so.

I understand that it is difficult for some people to part with 'the way we've always done it' However I am just offering suggestions, anything can be improved if there is a will to do it.

Yes, I have only made a few posts here but that is irrelevant, having taught school for many years, I can tell you that some of the best insight comes from those who are exposed to something for the first time.
Never-the-less I post on many other sites and there is not this depth of confusion about where to post as there is there.

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[morea]

if you have a question about specific software, post it in the specific section.

a lot of work goes into this forum, and improvements are made on a consistent basis, BUT this is not our full time job. Moderators serve on a volunteer basis outside their regular jobs.

but if you want to throw stones...

We are one, our cause is one, and we must help each other if we are to succeed. ~ Frederick Douglass

[billdakelski]

OK OK I get the picture, You don't want suggestions...... cheee. And we do appreciate all your work
Thanks

[morea]

not what I was saying. Not at all.

This place is constantly evolving. Your points are valid and are being discussed. The thing is that any changes take time to implement and we just went through a major upgrade... please understand that those responsible for the format are doing their best.

The forum is a wealth of knowledge, and the right people try to find ways to be in the right places when they are needed. Thank you for wanting to help.

We are one, our cause is one, and we must help each other if we are to succeed. ~ Frederick Douglass

[GrfxGawd]

Why is it always the guy with 6 (correction - 7 now) posts that has the answer to every forum problem? Even though I haven't noticed anyone having any problems with the forums...

This guy is like Seagull Management. Fly in, crap all over everything, and leave never to be seen again.

Note to billdakelski:
Welcome! I'm very new here as well. Please come in and make yourself comfortable.

But before you start poking the native wildlife with sharp sticks, you might want to see how the ecosystem works. There might be order in the jungle your eyes might not see. At the very least, if you hang out and seem friendly instead of waving your arms and shouting wildly, they are a lot more likely to make friends with you.

And don't be surprised if you loose an arm sticking into a cage where you don't know what's inside. Watch those fingers, and the toes you might step on.

Seriously - what if I came into your house, looked in your closet, and started telling you what you needed to do to organize it? The first things you'd say is, 'Who the h@ll are you? And what are you doing in MY house?! I think my closets are perfectly fine, Mr. You can take a hike!'

I think that considering your entrance, the established local color (not me, I'm new) has really received you very well...

Anyhow, welcome aboard. Relax. Take some time to see how things work. So there might be some inefficiency. I bet people can manage to work it out. Get to know the locals well enough and I bet you might have a better chance at effecting change, if you still feel change is needed by the time that happens.

ALL generalizations are BAD.

Post Edited (GrfxGawd) : 4/6/2005 9:06:11 PM GMT

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Well said GrfxGawd,w00t w00t. I think I'll lock this because that post says it all. /DesktopModules/dotNetBB/emoticons/cool.gif

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Ok GrafxGawd, that was the best god damned post by a non-mod I've EVER seen in my life! If you're ever my way, I'll buy you a touqe and a jar of maple syrup!

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GrfxGawd

Very well said!

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