Editors that think they are Designers

[Senior Button Pusher]

I hate when editors think because they have a 'little' experience they think they are designers.

Pet Peave 1# 'Indent the first paragraph'
My response hello editor, you dont have to indent the first paragraph-the reason for indents is to signify where the new paragraph starts.

Pet Peav 2# 'how can we make this look like these other great mags' (i.e., Martha Stewart)
My response hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... how about cutting your type by about... lets say... 1500 words...
How about a little organized white space people! these are professional magazines because they love organized white space and they are not afraid of it. and not afraid of color!

ok i have more but want to hear you guys Pet Peaves...

[morea]

LMAO @ your image! Welcome to the boards.

My biggest pet peeve is when my boss says 'just pull the images of the internet'.

'They say time is the fire in which we burn.'
- Dr. Tolian Soran</font>

[greyghost]

Clients who think they are designers. They don't know the first thing about design, they love tacky stuff like starbursts and fonts like brush script, comic sans, and papyrus. They like color combinations and want the background to fade in this order: purple, cyan, pink, and yellow. Then they want their text to be purple on top of the deep pink or blue. They buy the smallest ad that they think can hold ALL their information, and when the run out of real estate in the ad and it looks like a used car lot instead of a nice ad, they decide it is ready to go.

And then they are mad at ME or the publication when they don't get more than two calls from the ad in a month.

when it comes to certain clients, remind yourself:
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

I'm an ARTIST, not a MAGICIAN!

[greyghost]

Morea - I hate that one too! I am sooooo tired of explaining WHY I can't use the images on the net. And when you explain it, they say 'why not? It's plenty big on my screen, it's like five inches tall. What do you mean it's only an inch tall?'

when it comes to certain clients, remind yourself:
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

I'm an ARTIST, not a MAGICIAN!

[D-Zine]

My editor also thinks he is a designer...it really annoys the piss outta me!!

I think he finally understand that - in the words of defjoe-- 'I'm the designer b!tches!!' /DesktopModules/dotNetBB/emoticons/lol.gif

Really tho..I had a long talk with him and the rest of the crew - kind of a meeting and they seemed to understand a little better. Only question is..how long with THAT last?? LOL

'No more yanky my wanky! The donga need food!!' - heh

[morea]

if you guys didn't already see this site when EC posted it, you should check out www.clientcopia.com (http://www.clientcopia.com). /DesktopModules/dotNetBB/emoticons/lol.gif

'They say time is the fire in which we burn.'
- Dr. Tolian Soran</font>

[morea]

another one that gets me... 'fax it to the printer'

My God - I just spent an hour tweaking the kerning and leading so that it would look perfect... then the printer typesets it and it looks like crap.

I had CALLED the printer and asked them where to email the file, but they told me that they wanted it faxed.
When they typeset it, the had double spaces and all within the instructions. Grrrr.....

'They say time is the fire in which we burn.'
- Dr. Tolian Soran</font>

[Senior Button Pusher]

D-ZINE I'm with ya.... We have had our meetings-we make agreements- then after a month-alheimerzs hits all the editors.

back to the drawing board.

Pet Peave#3 is the type going to show up on the 'colored' background?
my response: stop being such a wimp...color is good and your friend and bright colors are exceptable in a relocation guide for the beach scene....

[morea]

here's one:

me: how many colors will the logo print?

client: 2

me: what are the colors?

client: blue and white.

me: but the paper is white, so it won't actually print white... just blue ink, right?

client: no because the white prints through the blue.

me: but tht's ok, we'll just print the blue and leave the part that is supposed to be white unprinted.

client: ok, so just blue ink then.

me: so I have priced this as a one-color logo.

client: no the logo is two colors.

me: what two colors?

client: blue and white.

'They say time is the fire in which we burn.'
- Dr. Tolian Soran</font>

[D-Zine]

LMFAO @ Morea!!

My God that is Classic!!!!!!!!!!!!

'No more yanky my wanky! The donga need food!!' - heh

[Patrick Shannon]

Morea: That is sooooo true. I don't know how many times I've tried to explain that white is simply an absence of color.....

Patrick Shannon

'Dear valued customer, go home and die. Signed, your friendly graphic artist.'

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[morea]

it hurts, Patrick... /DesktopModules/dotNetBB/emoticons/weep.gif

'They say time is the fire in which we burn.'
- Dr. Tolian Soran</font>

[Senior Button Pusher]

morea, that is the funny story!!! i read it to my co-workers. it was a good laugh.
i needed that!!

[Senior Button Pusher]

i got one. i work with an editor that i truly beleive worked on the gutenburg press...

he uses words and newspaper/graphic lingo that went out in the 30's

'can you screen this picture'?

nooooooo!!!! it's tone. have the picture toned!!!!

loooooo--whoooooo-seeeeerr-hhhhherrrrrrr

[morea]

I can laugh NOW, but at the time I was ready to choke her with the phone cord! /DesktopModules/dotNetBB/emoticons/lol.gif

'They say time is the fire in which we burn.'
- Dr. Tolian Soran</font>

[Senior Button Pusher]

you know... my response is - I'm just a button pusher- not paid to think....

[morea]

here's another classic from work: www.graphicdesignforum.com/desktopdefault.aspx?f=35&m=90150&tabid=137 (http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/desktopdefault.aspx?f=35&m=90150&tabid=137)

'They say time is the fire in which we burn.'
- Dr. Tolian Soran</font>

[Senior Button Pusher]

you know morea with our designers luck -had you decided to choke her- the phone probably woould have been cordless...

:)

[greyghost]

That site is BRILLANT! I about died laughing at some of them.

when it comes to certain clients, remind yourself:
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

I'm an ARTIST, not a MAGICIAN!

[Senior Button Pusher]

morea i checked out the forum you posted.

unbeleiveable - i laugh outloud, but inside i think i was crying because it is soooo true and is rampant everywhere....

sigh....hmpffffff.....

[morea]

exactly! I wanted to laugh at him, and to cry at the same time!
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'They say time is the fire in which we burn.'
- Dr. Tolian Soran</font>

[Senior Button Pusher]

how can i get my pic to display on the left as yours?

i'm on mac-i couldnt find place in the preferneces

[morea]

control panel button at the top of the page, then click on "Edit Options" - you should be able to do it from there.


it will be under "Avatar"


You can choose an avatar from the gallery available, or upload a custom avatar of your own. Images larger than 20KB will not be accepted. Images larger than 100x100 pixels will be resized automatically.


'They say time is the fire in which we burn.'
- Dr. Tolian Soran</font>

[Senior Button Pusher]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
this just in...
one of my editors just walked in.. you know the one who worked with gutenburg.
i was of course on the net.... me and him dont get along.... so he saw that my true boss was in the room with us... so he says... you working for (lets call him bubba) now or what are you doing...

i said i am doing nothing just surfing the net....

ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... he didnt like it too much, thought he would get me in trouble with my boss.....
this guy is one of them 'sweatshop' guys.... work exaclty 8 hours a day no playing.... let me quote the greatest comic ever Jim Carrey.... Looooo--whoooooo-seeeeerr-hhhhherrrrrrr...

[Senior Button Pusher]

cool thank morea - i check it out now

[morea]

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'They say time is the fire in which we burn.'
- Dr. Tolian Soran</font>

[EC]

Make your avatar bigger Senior Button Pusher, or we'll miss your great headline!!! Welcome to the forum. :)

[CatintheHat1]

greyghost said...
Clients who think they are designers. They don't know the first thing about design, they love tacky stuff like starbursts and fonts like brush script, comic sans, and papyrus. They like color combinations and want the background to fade in this order: purple, cyan, pink, and yellow. Then they want their text to be purple on top of the deep pink or blue. They buy the smallest ad that they think can hold ALL their information, and when the run out of real estate in the ad and it looks like a used car lot instead of a nice ad, they decide it is ready to go.

And then they are mad at ME or the publication when they don't get more than two calls from the ad in a month.


Hey, I like Papyrus!! My problem is that I design product packaging for specific products and no matter what colours I send, every client wants BLUE...out of the last 100 projects I swear 90 are blue and half of those have faux-gold lettering...please help me....ARGHHHHHHH

White space??? WHITE SPACE???????????? Are you crazy??? They're paying good money and intend to use up every square inch of available space and if the font is so small that no one can read it, well, too bad...as most clients tell me "my message is very important." I feel like saying "well, if it's so important why are you afraid someone will read it?"

Oh, my other pet peeve: red on blue. Seriously...I go thorugh this 10 times a week....dark red type on a dark blue background...the other day I ended up doing it for a rather large company (they wore me down)- can't wait to see that thing in print...hahah

Cat in the Hat