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9iron
04-21-2005, 02:44 AM
Before I start finishing the others I'd like to get an early opinion or 2... or 3...or any, please. My color choice is wrong again. I'll have to check my selection.
beano
04-21-2005, 07:56 AM
I quite like the colour tbh!?!
The highlight on the arm/shoulder suggests that the light is coming from top front though, which puts the shadow in the wrong place. It also might look better if the woman was at a slight angle, to give it a more three dimensional look... At the moment it kinda looks like she has no left leg!?!
I'm absolutely useless at text, so i won't try to help there lol! I really like the logo though! ;)
defjoe
04-21-2005, 12:15 PM
I too like the color. it's a subtle choice for a very harsh subject.
I agree also on the figure.
uncle carbunkle
04-21-2005, 12:24 PM
the imagery is a little opressive to me. the woman could be crying, it's hard to tell whether or not she's pregnant, and her posture is isolated/isolating.
i would try to keep it simpler - much like your abstracted silohuette, but without the repetitions.
post again! post again!
9iron
04-21-2005, 01:59 PM
She is supposed to be and feel isolated, alone. That is a problem with a teenage pregnancy. I know it's hard to tell if she's pregnant so I'll think about that one. I will post again. Thank you for your suggestions, as usual your all great.
9iron
04-21-2005, 02:52 PM
I still like the other one so I thought I'd clear up the pregnancy issue with another figure. Hope that helps????
beano
04-21-2005, 03:07 PM
The logo is looking a bit hemmed in now, i think the first one had a better balance to it (for me anyway).
9iron
04-21-2005, 04:28 PM
This opens it up alot more.
beano
04-21-2005, 07:13 PM
That looks much better, maybe you could pull them out from the corner a little. You might want to try dropping the opacity on that shadow a little too, just to see how it looks...
9iron
04-21-2005, 09:47 PM
I think this is going to work. What do you think???
Overall i find your first design more so sucessfull then all your more recent approaches.
Your design has lost a sense of unity and balance from the first. This is due to your over use of the figure in conjunction with your simple layout.
The bottom is very HEAVY compared to the rest of the composition contributing to the designs lack of balance and unity mentioned above.
Furthermore, the human eye will relate to the human figure before anything else in the composition. There for, via "over whelming" your design with (2) figures vs. one drastically contributs to the aftermentioned design dilema's.
This also takes away from the presence of the actual logo design. Which i assume should be a major point of emphasis in the composition.
The color I find very successfull for the genre and audience it is addressing.
The color has a very successfull "soothing" feel to it.
In addition, the color reflects a medical facilty very well.
However, i might think about adding some purple or somthing in the design. As it is very successfull with a medical feel to it the design reminds me more so of a pharmacy type facility then anything.
Which does work for this piece but just something to consider / expand upon for a more successfull outcome.
In the end, you have approached this design very well through concept. However, finding a way to convey a sense of pregnany and lonliness through conceptual imagry is something which needs to be re-addressed without the inclusion of more then one figure. As the design feels a bit overwhelming with the human figure as of late.
You need to put both the first and last figure illustrations in the shaker and get something inbetween for the illustration. This would make for a much more balanced and sucessfull design.
hope that helps
9iron
04-22-2005, 03:48 AM
All points well taken tZ. Thank you for your constructive words.
beano
04-22-2005, 08:31 AM
I think what you need is an obviously pregnant woman in the original pose, or something similar. The first version is still so much more powerful than the latest (which does look better than the one before btw!).
She is supposed to be and feel isolated, alone. That is a problem with a teenage pregnancy. I know it's hard to tell if she's pregnant so I'll think about that one. I will post again. Thank you for your suggestions, as usual your all great.
I'm gonna be honest with ya ... as a woman, the emotional response I get from these images is very depressing and sad. A pregnancy can be joyous, or it can be tragic.
If it's the latter, I don't think being literal is the way to go. Being sensitive to the difficult emotions involved, I think conveying a sense of strength, hope, and gentle optimism would be more appropriate.
Or, I think as has been suggested, tone down the emotion all together.
9iron
04-22-2005, 02:43 PM
I really like all the comments and suggestions so I have decided to present the following for their consideration. I'll let you know what the reaction is. Thanks again for the help.
PS EC, Your concern as a woman is greatly appreciated. I've added the words to help clarify my reasons for the presentation. I hope that clarifies what they're about.
morea
04-22-2005, 04:35 PM
I had not seen this until today, 9iron... I really like the latest one. Excellent work on the project!!!
May I make one humble suggestion? I would like to see the text at the bottom spelled out "YOU ARE NOT" instead of "YOU'RE NOT" which seems less formal to me.
Excellent job! I love it!
Michelle P.R.G.D.
04-22-2005, 06:00 PM
i am not sure, i think i like the first one better. maybe if you play around with the positioning of her and maybe show a bit of a belly, and adjust the shadowing and give her another leg.
Good luck.
Michelle P.R.G.D.
04-22-2005, 06:00 PM
oh i was on the wrong page when i wrote my last response. This one above is good.
Michelle P.R.G.D.
04-22-2005, 06:01 PM
and maybe center the white box into the purple, seems a little off, unless your putting something in there.
morea
04-22-2005, 06:06 PM
I don't know, I like the way that it is offset. I think it contributes to the overall feel of the piece.
9iron
04-22-2005, 06:55 PM
Next time I'll tell a little better story and maybe there won't be so many misinterpretations of what I'm going to do. Thank you so much for your comments.
Michelle...There is a reason for the offset of the rounded squares.
morea...Thanks for the kind words. I will change the wording.
max_nhk
04-24-2005, 02:25 AM
I'll take out the second lady.
Suggestion: Move the first lady up. Strech her shadow down and the place 'you're not alone within the shadow.
Is this a single/duo col print?