CorelDraw good for layout designing than Quark or Pagemaker

[kapilchakravarthy]

People,

I use CorelDraw 11 for designing brouchers, Fliers. But i wanted to know about Quark, Page maker, InDesign. In CorelDraw i add the Image's created in Photoshop and all the typo work in CorelDraw . Then when i send it for printing to the vendor i jus burn it in a cd/dvd as cdr format. Thats all i do.

But my friend's friend says he uses quark or page maker or In Design and give it for printing.

I use CorelDraw because my deadlines are tight. My dept head says that using CorelDraw the production is much faster. Is this true. I have been working as a graphic for 4.5 yrs in website layout and flash presentation's. But now i am in to fulltime prepress work.

Is the method above I do is proffissonal or not. Is there any disadvantage in whic I do .

I know that we have to link every thing in quark or pagemaker.

Pls help

Regards
Kapil

[defjoe]

Professional? depends on your definition. If you are talking compared to what is standard in the industry... no it's not. Most designers use a layout program like Quark, ID or PM (though PM is no longer being produced).

however if your client/boss is happy with what you are doing then yes... it is professional.

[D-Zine]

I agree with Joe, and as Allen always says "If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it". I guess industry standard is Quark and moving into InDesign but there are alot of designers that do layout in Corel and have absolutely no problems with it and do great work.

If you guys are having no issues, and everything is running smooth, I would continue the route you are on. No sense in changing a good thing. I would only make the switch if problems were arising.

[Broacher]

In a word: type. Corel is amazingly speedy and great, but it has nowhere near the type quality/flexibility/options that ID has. Especially for line composition, character level nested tags, and all those OT goodies. Especially for longer documents, this is a big saving. Then you get into multiple masters, leading grids, sections, index TOC, etc.

Rough layouts, concepts--- I often go to Corel for superfast presentation stuff that I will work up into a real layout app. And for pure logo, drawing, production grunt work-- Corel is still the fastest by far.

The good news is, even if you just use Corel for flyers you CAN take type composed in ID and cut and paste it directly into Draw with Oberon's AI clipboard macro set.

[Allen Harkleroad]

I use CorelDraw for a lot of large format stuff, and sometimes illustrator. I don't do a lot of multi page layout so CD works fine.

[Keyare]

Corel works great for multi-page layout too. As long at it's not over 16 pages.

If you're going from Corel to Indesign or Quark, you'll cry. Corel is a billion times more powerful than either program...but it just wasn't really designed for too many pages.

[kapilchakravarthy]

mmmmmm one tip i get.......

[D-Zine]

:confused:

[celloguy007]

I have been using Corel for almost 2.5 years now, and I have never had aproblem with it. In fact, I would much rather use Corel than Adobe for MOST designs. I say most because I know that Illustrator has its place, and Quark, etc. Corel is great though. I like it for its accuracy, and user-friendliness.

Check this out while you are at it:
http://www.shutterstock.blogspot.com

[kapilchakravarthy]

Yep i agree with u u can zoom it 10,000 times and align things its grt

[PrintDriver]

The only drawback to CorelDraw is it's PC Only. No longer Mac supported. Typical cross-platform stuff can happen. And .cdr files are not really supported by too many other programs. If you are using it in a dedicated environment, your printer is fine with it, and you're not shipping files to several other people using Macs that's fine. I don't run into Corel files too often unless it's for signage. Logo work. Most other stuff I handle is in some form of layout program. Like Broacher says, many use it to draw but not a lot for actual layout.

[Allen Harkleroad]

I still have CD11 on my Mac and CD12 on my PC, about the only time i use it for work that has to be printed is billboards, large format stuff, and other vinyl stuff like signage. For that to me it is indispensible.

Allen

[kapilchakravarthy]

I still have CD11 on my Mac and CD12 on my PC, about the only time i use it for work that has to be printed is billboards, large format stuff, and other vinyl stuff like signage. For that to me it is indispensible.

Allen

Hay Allen,

When you design a billboard that is outside board what is the dpi u use or work on and what is the min dpi to work. My frnd says that 100 dpi will do is it correct. I feel 100 dpi is ok for text when you type in CD11 what about the images pleas give me a clear Picture

[Broacher]

>>Yep i agree with u u can zoom it 10,000 times and align things its grt<

An itd even cumms with a spel chekker two!

[coffee]

hi yall,

i dont think, that CorelDraw is in any way professional. Whenever we have to work with a such a file because the client has send it, its like we sneer at that client and it also cast a poor light on the company from where the file came.

I can remember when i was 13/14 years old i was used to work with CorelDraw or even more Micrografx making my first steps and experiences with the PC and "Child-Art" on the computer.

And like someone allready said, in the after coming printing process....i dont know how to say.....they cant handle any "exotic" programs, sometimes only quark, and they know what a PDF is, but thats it. the printers dont get payed for knowing all the programs.

[Broacher]

>>i dont think, that CorelDraw is in any way professional. Whenever we have to work with a such a file because the client has send it, its like we sneer at that client and it also cast a poor light on the company from where the file came.<<

I think you might be confusing professional tool with professional (or non-professional) users (abusers?). That's Corel's curse. It's inexpensive, it's easy to use, it's everywhere-- and mostly everywhere where non-professionals, attracted by the low cost and easy to use interface, get right in there and create poorly constructed files. That's why I don't think it's fair to blame the program itself for being easy to use, or low-cost-- for it's popularity among the under-knowledged.

[kapilchakravarthy]

hi yall,

i dont think, that CorelDraw is in any way professional. Whenever we have to work with a such a file because the client has send it, its like we sneer at that client and it also cast a poor light on the company from where the file came.

I can remember when i was 13/14 years old i was used to work with CorelDraw or even more Micrografx making my first steps and experiences with the PC and "Child-Art" on the computer.

And like someone allready said, in the after coming printing process....i dont know how to say.....they cant handle any "exotic" programs, sometimes only quark, and they know what a PDF is, but thats it. the printers dont get payed for knowing all the programs.


Well i dont think that CD is any way professional!!!!!! Man i dont know what made you say that. It is good the world finds it good. But can you tell me why you feel so. Is it lack of tool, Ui problems. What really trigers when you say this CD is not professional. So we to know and estimate CD.

[Kool]

kapilchakravarthy, just ignore coffee's ignorant statments. That attitude used to be everywhere but it's mostly died out now. It's like Broacher said Corel Draw does get more than it's fair share of users who don't really know what they are doing because of its affordability. In the hands of a knowledgable pro it can produce some amazing work.

You know Corel really blew it. Back before ID came out when Quark was resting on their monopoly and so many designers were fed up with their featureless upgrades and non existant customer service. The market was ripe for someone to step in. If Corel had instigated a really agressive marketing campaign at that time I think they could have grabbed a lot of the market that ID now enjoys.

[Ghastly]

One of the reasons I have never really given Corel Draw a chance is that some of the tools just drive me crazy trying to work with the damned things. The bezier tool in Corel Draw *really* irritated me in version 10, In Illustrator you can set cusp nodes (sharp vertices) and manipulate curves / contol points on the fly...whilst with Corel Draw I found I had to draw a rough curve then edit it later to get the correct shape. I may have been doing something wrong but never gave it a chance to find out. I also find the UI annoying but then thats probably because Illy practically mirrors Photoshop

All in all the functionality to Corel Draw far outweighs Illustrator but as with the upgrades from Illustrator 8 to present..a fair number of them seem to be *somewhat gimmicky* features IMHO. (there are a lot of *useful* additions too though) CorelDraw is more powerful and probably equal to Illustrator in the hands of an experienced user in constructing useful files.

I just find that illustrator has all the tools I need from a vector drawing program (version 8 is getting a bit dated now tho perhaps)

[Broacher]

>>I may have been doing something wrong but never gave it a chance to find out.<<

If you move to Draw 12 you'll be pleasantly surprised that they've added the traditional 'Adobe Pen' tool to the toolset making the leap into Draw for AI users much easier.

[Vikia]

I haven't used CorelDraw. But I generally consider it a vector illustration software like Adobe Illustrator and Macromedia Freehand. I use them to create vector images that I eventually place into a layout program. I suppose you can do layout in CorelDraw (or AI and FH) but I don't think they have the typesetting controls that actual layout programs have. So if control in typesetting is needed as in booklets, annual reports, catalogs, etc. I would consider getting a layout program.

I use Quark or InDesign for layout.

I use Photoshop for halftone images.

I try to use the correct program for the type of work I am doing. It makes things easier throughout production and when you hand off to the printer. Everyone knows what to expect.

[Kool]

Ya know I asked Broacher about this very thing today because I have done lots of 24 page or so spread layouts in CD and never had any problems. Here is what he told me.

"The truth is, Corel's type engine can't really hold a candle to ID's. But then-- it's not supposed to. InDesign's line composition, the advanced OT features, ligature support, and amazing paragraph tagging-- not even close. And even Quark or PageMaker has it way over Corel there too."

So for small booklets and brochures and such it works fine but for larger stuff you're better of going with one of the others. http://home.comcast.net/~rnick9/koolsmiley.gif

[kapilchakravarthy]

People what is halftone images.

[Keyare]

An image which is screened for printing.
See: http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69
The image of LPI is a halftone.

You need a postscript printer to create halftones.