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uncle carbunkle
04-26-2005, 07:15 PM
Giclée printing...i enjoy the way they look and i can get quotes locally, but i've never had any of my work printed using this method.
any advice? tips? warnings? stories?
Giclée printing...discuss... :rolleyes:
defjoe
04-26-2005, 07:19 PM
never heard of it
man I am so much help aren't I?
uncle carbunkle
04-26-2005, 07:21 PM
THANKS, JOE!
:thumbsup:
defjoe
04-26-2005, 07:22 PM
I hope that makes your choice for ya ;)
benjo
04-26-2005, 08:04 PM
The important question is do they have beer?
uncle carbunkle
04-26-2005, 08:06 PM
*sigh*
useless. you two are useless.
:rolleyes:
benjo
04-26-2005, 08:16 PM
In a week attempt of being use full (I'm a man remember) I say ask for samples. Do a test run something simple that you can forgive them for messing up. Then decide if there worth their weight in salt. I use a lot of internet based printing. One thing is if there customer support sucks don’t bank on them you know a relationship with you printer can make you or break you especially in a time of need.
Did that help?
DeleteYourself
04-26-2005, 08:24 PM
did someone say chicklets?
defjoe
04-26-2005, 08:26 PM
cool it's fine art printing (I Googled it). the site I found was impressive. they had a nice QT movie explaining the process.
uncle carbunkle
04-26-2005, 10:03 PM
that was good, sound, redundant advice benjo - thanks! ;)
delete - we're talking about sleeping bags, actually.
defjoe - what is that link? i know what it is, but i'd like to see your amazing site. please? :D
PrintDriver
04-26-2005, 10:33 PM
Unk, do you really want to know about Giclee?
It's a fine art digital inkjet process. True giclee is printed in a drum printer and usually has a size limit that will depend on the vendor.
It used to be the inks were good for 10 years and would only go onto a very high quality acid-free paper but now the inksets have some pretty decent life expectencies (if the print is mounted and framed correctly) and there are all sorts of substrates available including canvas looks and textured canvas. Be sure to ask the vendor for the Wilhelm rating of his inks and substrates.
These prints have been fighting for acceptance in the Fine Art world and only recently, with the new inksets, have become accepted in the signed/limited edition collectors' world.
Expensive in comparison to other inkjet but you can ask more for them as well.
uncle carbunkle
04-26-2005, 10:44 PM
thanks pd. that's pretty much what i knew...i've just never gone through the process myself before. you need transparancies of the piece...right? how exciting.
i've got a few illustrator buddies who have embraced this process and are doing well by it. takes a lot of hassle out of print-making, when you are about the one piece, rather than the process of hand-pulling 500.
could you use the giclee process to make a book? wow, i never thought of that before. could you bind the end product? do people do that, or is it ridiculous?
uncle carbunkle
04-26-2005, 10:44 PM
i know it would be an expensive book, but i'm just brain-storming here...
PrintDriver
04-26-2005, 10:52 PM
You do need a good transparency IF the art is not already digital.
Not a 35mm. Depending on the art, a 2-1/4 may do it or a 4" may be better. Most vendors will either be able to do it for you or they work with an art photographer that can.
I never really thought about using it as a replacement for screen printing or printmaking because we always seem to screen on 'boards' of some kind.
I suppose you could make a book with it. But I don't know of one that prints double-sided. Most of the substrates have a 'good' side. Some of the lighter canvases would take stitching nicely. Possibly some of the papers as well. Or get all avant-garde on the binding... could be fun.
Damn Unk. Always thinking out of the box eh?
I know an artist who is selling limited editions of his prints for over $500 a whack. He gets $5000-$10000 for an original oil painting.
uncle carbunkle
04-26-2005, 10:58 PM
hmmmm...methinks i'll have to find out who buddies use locally and have a chat with them.
also, looking at the amount of detail that the scans pick up makes me want to do vector, acrylic and hand printed projects...aaaaaaaargh! too many ideas! not enough money!
lol! story of my life.
thanks, pd!
JaCkinbOx
04-27-2005, 01:19 AM
Giclée is French for ejaculation.
D-Frag
04-27-2005, 02:07 AM
wow, something I actually know a substantial amount of info on.
Giclee printing, is basically printing (usually digital) on a canvas type material. As for warnings, well its a bitch to color correct on, so unless your the pre-press guy I wouldn't worry about it. One thing that is really cool about Giclee's, is you can print them out and have your printer leave you like a 4" bleed on the canvas so you can stretch and mount it yourself. Metallic inks or really bright colors tend to wash out completly. Another method ive seen the "pro's" do, is they will go back to painting on top of the already printed Giclee, tends to give it a more "real" feeling.
That's all I got, if you have any more questions I can help you out, I printed Giclee's on our HP 5500 for a couple years, so you could say I have some expeirence with it.
D-Zine
04-27-2005, 03:37 AM
I knew absolutely nothing about any of this so thanks to Uncle for posting out of curiosity, thanks to D-Frag and PD for the useful information and thanks to Joe for the link that he is hopefully going to post of the QT movie so we know what the heck its all like :p
uncle carbunkle
04-27-2005, 03:43 AM
thanks dfrag!
and thanks for posting, dzine - you lend the thread some class.
:P
D-Frag
04-27-2005, 03:56 AM
didnt even see that PD posted, sorry, too eager to help i guess
*waits in shadowy corner*
D-Zine
04-27-2005, 04:09 AM
No hiding! I am sure ALL help is apprecaited :D
uncle carbunkle
04-27-2005, 02:18 PM
SURE! i loves it. but now, you'll have to wrestle for supremecy. two people can't know about fine-art printing practices in the same thread - it goes against all of my gods.
so - chop chop! tights on! let the death-match begin!
*munches on popcorn*
defjoe
04-27-2005, 02:55 PM
sorry kids I got distracted. here is that link
http://www.mauigiclee.com/
uncle carbunkle
04-27-2005, 03:05 PM
ooooooooo! i get to go to maui!!!!
THANKS, JOE!
defjoe
04-27-2005, 03:13 PM
yeah isn't that just a kick in the face. they show that beach shot before anything.