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mattborghi
05-09-2005, 04:30 PM
So a couple days ago I meant to post this, but I didn't get around to it. I decided to take a walk, it was a beautiful Michigan spring day, and as I was walking I started thinking about my job.

The term "The Compromised Graphic Designer" came to my mind, as I thought about my work. Sort of had a Camus-like ring to it, but maybe my question wasn't as dire as many of his...

Anyway, I walked and I thought. I thought about a conversation I had with my boss earlier in the day. My boss sat me down and told me that he liked my work, and thought it was original, but that I should start using the cornucopia of royalty free graphics that were available on the internet. I'll refrain from judging that just now, but I was taught for most of my design life that you never go to those free animated gif sites, or those auto-build nav bar places that litter the info superhighway... I mean I shuddered to think about using a flaming text anim-gif on a site that I was serious about, or one of those orbiting planets. I was instructed that I should start thinking about some of those web templates that you could get on-line at some of those free template, free clip art places. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I pressed the issue and asked if it was something to do with my work, and lo, it was not, however, I needed to make use of stuff that was freely available, and he reiterated that it was OK to copy other people's stuff. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. The words were contrary to everything that I had ever thought about art, and for better or for worse, my thoughts on art are inextricably linked to my work as a graphic/web designer, even though it's creative, and not necessarily artistic, at least at my day job. I didn't say anything. I just nodded and looked at the floor. Why? Because the other thing that I was taught was that the client, or the one paying your way, makes the decisions. So at times I'm just a computer-operator or production artist, which really isn't so bad, but it's interesting to me how sometimes I'm a full-on graphic designer, sometimes I'm a computer operator and sometimes I'm the full-on marketing and production person - writing copy points, designing, sourcing out to a printer, and all that involves. Furthermore, when you throw in web design, especially in this day and age, with php, database driven web, css, interactivity, etc... we're talking about a totally different animal, almost wholly antithetical to visual stimuli, and that which drives most graphic designers or creative visual types. So it's interesting how hats we designers have to wear.

I guess besides a directionless rant, I wanted to share my experiences with the hope that others might share theirs... I read the article here about what to expect as a graphic designer, and I found it right on the mark.

I go through the pages of Print and Comm Arts, and I'm like how come I'm not desiging things like this. I look at the credits and these pieces have art directors, illustrators, copywriters, photographers, etc... and at any job I've ever had, I've been the art director, copywriter, illustrator, designer, photographer,etc... and I've had a ton of great ideas, yet my ideas get vetoed and I end up using schlocky cliches like "bevel and emboss" drop shadows and various other PS efx that make me sick at this point. So it goes, it's better than a real job... :-)

Anyway, I guess that I'm curious to hear about other people's experiences as graphic designers. What do you do vs. what you thought you would be doing? How much creative say do you have? How many of your ideas are fleshed out by a panel, or maybe a single individual with less than developed aesthetic tastes? Just curious...

If you got this far into my rant... thanks...

matt

Vikia
05-09-2005, 04:56 PM
I would wonder what his ultimate motive is. What would prompt him to make such a suggestion. Is he of the belief that using the royalty free art available would accomplish a goal of his? Is he trying to improve turn around times by not recreating wheels already designed? He has his own agenda, even if not readily apparent. You need to find out specifically what his goal is by you producing work this way.

morea
05-09-2005, 05:20 PM
My boss sat me down and told me that he liked my work, and thought it was original, but that I should start using the cornucopia of royalty free graphics that were available on the internet.

I have to agree with you and Vikia... what possible gain could your boss achieve by using someone else's graphics? Does he just want something done quickly regardless of the quality? I have worked for people like that before, and it certainly isn't easy!


he reiterated that it was OK to copy other people's stuff.

My boss is the same way... just doesn't want to hear that you can't just take something off the internet and use it. My all time favorite... "nobody will find out."


it's interesting how hats we designers have to wear....
Anyway, I guess that I'm curious to hear about other people's experiences as graphic designers. What do you do vs. what you thought you would be doing? How much creative say do you have? How many of your ideas are fleshed out by a panel, or maybe a single individual with less than developed aesthetic tastes? Just curious...

hoo boy... speaking of hats: I am the sole designer, I handle all of our marketing and advertising, answer telephones, do billing, file for refunds with our manufacturers, manage our website, send out all the mailings, order the office supplies, and TRY to do minor IT work when I can.

I am told to print things that look like a blobby pixellated mess. I redid all of our manufacturers logos on our website for size, clarity and consistency, and was told that they didn't look any different. I work with print shops that ask me to FAX my artwork instead of sending camera ready copy or submitting it electronically. I am given no direction or information as to how a project should look, then have to redo it because I am told that it is not what they had in mind.

I can totally sympathize with you, but I think that a lot of the problem is that our industry is so completely misunderstood.

Hang in there!!!

mattborghi
05-09-2005, 05:25 PM
...ever the paranoid employee that I am, I investigated that, and concluded that he didn't want freshness or originality, he just wanted flashy graphics that could be grabbed or downloaded from the site. There's also the ever-present discussion of the bottom line, and honestly, I think that he thinks that the design ultimately doesn't matter, but rather the importance, as far as my job is concerned, needs to be placed on an understanding of the web, web syntax, printing and the printing process. So more than anything the job is about being a print/web specialist, with very little emphasis on design, or creating fresh graphical stimuli. Kind of backwords, really, at least in my mind, but nevertheless, insightful...

G-Man79
05-09-2005, 05:28 PM
Matt-
To play Devil's advocate, you should look at the business perspective of what your boss is saying. His thought process may go as follows:

1: How can we cut corners and make more money? (Every boss, across the world thinks about this at least once every six seconds.)

2: (Light bulb appears over boss' head) I know, I'll have the employees do less work for more clients. (The age-old quality vs. quantity debate is never even considered in this step.)

3: How can my employees accomplish this task? (Boss then sits back, stares at his Pamela Anderson screensaver to ponder.)

4: (Second light bulb appears over boss' head) I'll have them copy/steal/utilize cheaper/ready-made materials from that Internet-thingamabob!

5: I am a genius. I think I'll talk to my employees about this and take the rest of the afternoon off.

Long story short, most boss' who work for a truly profit-driven/non-artistic company don't give two flying paper clips about your creative vision/abilities. They want you to get the work done fast and right. That way, you can move onto the next project and get that one done and so on and so on.

Unless you're working for highly creative people with vision and the drive to be innovators (not imitators), there will be a lot of bevelling and embossing in your future.

Ready to drop the toaster in your bathtub yet? Well don't, because once in a great while, really sweet projects come along and THAT'S when you go all out and rock the client with some creative hotness that they weren't expecting. Given these type projects and your patience over time, you'll have some great pieces to show for all the b.s. you've put up with.

And that my friend, is life in a nutshell. If every stepping stone in your journey was made of gold, you would never appreciate the nuggets you find along the way.

morea
05-09-2005, 05:29 PM
G-man, you should be writing for Dilbert! :p

G-Man79
05-09-2005, 05:32 PM
Thanks Morea. That's the English degree hard at work on GDF!

mattborghi
05-09-2005, 05:33 PM
G-Man, you hit the nail on the head, exactly... It's like I'm hearing my boss talking to me as I read what you've written. See that's what I was looking for. I wanted to see if there are others who've experienced this. Bevel and Emboss here I come!!!! :-)

uncle carbunkle
05-09-2005, 06:10 PM
so, you don't have to 'steal' templates. your boss just wants you to work faster.

Vikia
05-09-2005, 06:19 PM
G-Man, you hit the nail on the head, exactly... It's like I'm hearing my boss talking to me as I read what you've written. See that's what I was looking for. I wanted to see if there are others who've experienced this. Bevel and Emboss here I come!!!! :-)

Makes you wonder if your boss has a boss holding his toes over the coals.

Broacher
05-09-2005, 06:24 PM
Matt, I know exactly how you feel! And it's time we did somethig about this!

I'm currently looking for a good co-pilot* to join me in my around the world flight** in my airship***, "The Spirit of Compromise",where we will raise awareness of the plight of hapless corporate graphic designers everywhere!

Failing that, we could just drink a lot of beer, and curse and rant a lot.

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*I asked Elisha Cuthbert but she said she needed to wash her hair. (Bummer.)

**I bet even if we didn't circle the globe, we could probably get attention by cruising the Walmart parking lot and speaking in loud voices.

***It's more of an 82 Honda Civic on blocks... but if it had a pair of wings!

morea
05-09-2005, 06:25 PM
^ I'm in Broacher, if you're still looking! :D

defjoe
05-09-2005, 06:27 PM
this is an easy one... the reason that yuor not designing stuff like those in the magazines is simple. because in the % of design jobs.. that is like 1%. the other 99% is what you and im sure most of everyone here who work FT as a designer goes through.

your story is not abnormal at all. it's sadly... what is common.

UmmYeahOK
05-09-2005, 06:33 PM
anybody wants my job???

morea
05-09-2005, 06:35 PM
not particularly, but I would go to Tokyo with you! we could create all sorts of havoc! :D

Vikia
05-09-2005, 06:40 PM
Matt, I know exactly how you feel! And it's time we did somethig about this!

I'm currently looking for a good co-pilot* to join me in my around the world flight** in my airship***, "The Spirit of Compromise",where we will raise awareness of the plight of hapless corporate graphic designers everywhere!

Failing that, we could just drink a lot of beer, and curse and rant a lot.



I'm in too Broacher!

Time to educate the managers in the corporate world. Nothing against agency work, but inhouse designers are getting forced into this scenario all the time. Many would love nothing more than to truly design freely and creatively.

Even more upsetting is after being forced to produce sub creatively, the CEO chooses an agency for fresh creative that you ultimately have to comply with for the company's new branding.

UmmYeahOK
05-09-2005, 06:53 PM
yeah... cuz after tokyo... its all back to denver again haha

mattborghi
05-09-2005, 08:07 PM
well it's good to know that i'm not alone, not like i really thought i was, but it's nice to have the feedback coming in...

Unc had brought up the point about the speed of work... you know, if it had been relayed to me like, 'you're not working fast enough' or 'you're not making good work fast enough' that's something I could have worked with, in fact i actually asked if that was the issue, point-blank. negative. it was just: it's free, it's out there, let's use it... my response: (sigh) sure...

G-Man79
05-09-2005, 08:43 PM
Matt-
Def said it best when he said all the really sweet work you see out there is done by 1% of the world's designers. The rest of us are religated to cubicles and told to help the client with their MS Publisher newsletter issues.

Another recommendation if I may. Whenever you have free time in between projects (or posting here on GDF :)), develop some templates of your own. That way when I project springs up, you can say "Yeah I have these free templates. We should really use these."

If you want to change the system, you must become the system.

Vikia
05-09-2005, 08:52 PM
well it's good to know that i'm not alone, not like i really thought i was, but it's nice to have the feedback coming in...


Yup, this is why we're here for each other. If we don't have answers, we can offer moral support. Who else is gonna understand? :D

Broacher
05-09-2005, 09:00 PM
>>Who else is gonna understand?<<

Somedays, I think... maybe a jury would. Ask me why I keep sharp pointed sticks away from my cubicle.