Okay folks, IE windows users check this out!

[benjo]

Let me know if it's still tilling on the BG.

http://www.jenniferortiz.com/index.php?s=Media

Dam IE can't understand good old CSS.

[Allen Harkleroad]

It tiles at the bottom, make the cell/table background longer than the table/cell it is in. I generally add 100px to items, if it is a graduated gif the extra 100px will not affect the file size that much. I use a 1400px wide image for the image in the header on www.designertoday.com, it is a cell background image. Even at 1280x1024 it doesn't tile. Make sure you also set your table/cell height and width too, so it won't resize.

[benjo]

Would you know why the text is overlapping the image area. I'm using CSS on this.

[Ulysses]

You need to specify line-height for the li element.

[JPnyc]

Still tiling in IE.

[Ryan8720]

Add margin-bottom: 0; to the #Songs li.

[benjo]

Okay I'm going to use a table and position the table as I did with the li.

I tried the line-height and it messed everything up. Man IE sucks like nothing I've every seen before.

[Ulysses]

Yeah ... CSS can suck bum in IE. Be thankful you're not fixing someone else's CSS site ... that can be a real time eater.

[Ulysses]

A trick for you Benjo. If you're ever unsure why an element is displayed oddly, add a distinct background colour to the suspect element, to temporarily determine whether it is a margin/padding/width/height problem. Sometimes, it is helps to have a visual reference like this to hunt down the cause of the problem.

[JPnyc]

Right, good advice. Adding a visible border can also help. That's also particularly useful when you're trying to debug someone else's old coding that has a ton of nested tables.

[benjo]

Actually that's exactly what I do now. But this is live I won't be playing with it like that. I actually have a test page but I'm working on a calendar. Textpattern is so raw things take a little time to get to work cause the process is type tedious.

Still love the software but man is it a learning curve. Hey it’s better then learning PHP from scratch. Although I will have to eventually.

By the way anybody have swoosh brushes I could use so to lighted up something’s on the site.

[Ryan8720]

Did you try what I posted? That should have fixed it.

[benjo]

Actually no since I'm working from my job I just took two files the media HTML file and the song CSS file. I created a table which looks horrible right now but it works in IE I just checked it. I'll tweek it once I get home. Thanks either way.

[Patrick Shannon]

I know what you mean Benjo, IE is the WORST when working with CSS. Absolutely no excuse for web surfers not to switch to Firefox these days.

[benjo]

I know. I explained it to my client but had to use tables for the text as he figured most people have IE. Funny thing is what took about 8 lines of code now is about 50 lines. Stupid rendering engine.

[JPnyc]

I can think of a few good reasons for some to not switch to Firefox. For one, it uses more system resource so old slow machines will suffer and huff and puff. Also, no integration with the OS. Can't surf local files the same way so that means opening yet another window when your resources are already spread thin.

[Ryan8720]

You could have fixed it with that one line of CSS. *sigh*