some questions.... thanks!

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okay here goes... some more questions that are most probably really simple!! http://graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/ibf-iamstupid.gif

... no:1! i once read and i often see that there is a way that if you click on a link to open a new window- a picturefor example, then the window that opens you can change what appears.... eg.... you can change what the viewer sees(take off the toolbar and menu options etc..) how do you do this???

.... no:2! also is there a way that you can disable the save as option on a picture?? so that if you have a pic on your site that you dont want people to take can you disable the save as option?

...no:3! i think it was ryan that said that css was much better then using frames for webpages, as frames ruined search engine ratings... well... how would you do a gallery such as the one i have here (http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/petalpride)... on the gallery page... without using frames?? would css not take a lot longer and a lot more space?? i may as usual be talking rubbish!? but was just wondering??

if anyone can be bothered answering these questions (or understands what i am going on about) i would be gratefull... thanks!!!


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[Ryan8720]

1. You do that using JavaScript. Here is a generator you can use http://javascript.internet.com/generators/popup-window.html

2. There is not way to stop people from taking your images other that putting them in a Flash file.

3. In the case of that gallery, the only way to get rid of the frames would be to have a whole new page for each section. Or use an iframe which isn't any better. Also, I reccommend you make some thumbnails for those pictures. They take forever to load.

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RYAN!! THANKS!!http://graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/cheers.gif http://graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/specool.gif http://graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/thumbsup.gif http://graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/worshippy.gif
really appreciate your help!!! will get to work on those thumbnails!! thanks a ton!!

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[solcjoye]

Style,

the easiest way I have seen to get people to stop taking pictures off your site is to overlay a blank no background image over the actual image you want people to see. Just a suggestion, but Ryan is right, if they want the image there is always a way to get it, I think the best way is to have it at a low enough resolution that even if people got the image they could not really reproduce it, at least for print anyways... Just a thought...

Also, on my own little piece of the world I have the window pop-up w/o menu bars etc. for showing some of my work, if you want to steal the code for an example feel free... www.downonpaper.com

NOT to say my website if brilliant or anything, but its working code.. so have at it.

-Sol

ALSO: forgot to mention, there is a great website called www.devshed.com (http://www.devshed.com) where I search through the forum to find previous threads regarding the code I need, find it, and use it to work with my website stuff...

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http://graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/cheers.gifsol... thanks!! cool!!http://graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/specool.gif will do that!!! really appreciate!! http://graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/thumbsup.gif

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[in shadows]

ummm..about the pictures perhaps disabling the right click with some javascript will do..?

[axoi]

in shadows,

unfortunately that doesn't work on all browsers on all platforms. Plus it would be simple matter to find the image url and type that into the browser to get just the image on the page. So unless you obscure the URL to the image, which is possible by using cgi-bin programs to pull up the images in context, you SOL as to preventing the user from getting your images. I've heard that you can position a large transparent image over the other images so that when the user does right click they get that image instead. But it still doesn't limit them to the URL method.

- Bill

[in shadows]

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axoi said...
(I've heard that you can position a large transparent image over the other images so that when the user does right click they get that image instead.)




Sol said...
(the easiest way I have seen to get people to stop taking pictures off your site is to overlay a blank no background image over the actual image you want people to see.)



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[Gavin Joule]

even with flash and all those tricks, any OSX user has 'Grab' a screen capture app...

So if they want 'em they will get 'em...

If you are worried about copyright infringement then embed a watermark in your images with Photoshop.

Otherwise don't worry, if you see your pics beimg used then sue!

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your right.... it's not that i am desperate to keep my images safe.. it would just be nice!! thanks!!

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[axoi]

Not that I'm a windows guru or anything but a window 'grab' feature is built into windows also. Alt - Print Screen is the keystroke. However there is no noise or other output to let you know its take a picture. Also it places the image in the clipboard instead of a nice file in the root of the first drive. So you'll have to paste it into photoshop or whatever your using.

- Bill

[Ryan8720]

Attempts to stop people from taking you images usually just annoy the users. Just make sure that you have a copyright statement at the bottom of each page. A watermark doesn't hurt either.

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[style]

thanks ryan and axoi! now i gotta get to work!! /emoticons/wink.gif

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[style]

ok i got to work and now im havin problems.. i have changed the way the gallery is so that when one clicks on a thumbnail (ryan i made the files smaller!) then the larger image appears within the website .... problem is how do i get the larger image to automatically fit within the page? what is the code for this? sorry to bother you all!! any help would be much appreciated as usual!!!

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[axoi]

What do you mean 'automatically fit within the page?'

Do you mean automatically centered between the left and right margins?

If so you can use a <div align='center'><img goes here></div>

or you should use a css sheet and set the class to something..then use:
.something { margin: 0 auto; }


- Bill

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first of all thanks axoihttp://graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/specool.gif
sorry i wasnt clear..http://graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/ibf-iamstupid.gif i meant that the image should auto resize within the page..
if you dont mind to check this link (http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/petalpride) and go to the gallery page and see what i mean (all the images are getting cut of!!)
thanks for da help!

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[Ryan8720]

Ok, I see. This is one of the headaches of frames. Since you don't have a separate HTML page for each image and you are just going straight to the image URL, you can't center or have it resize. You would have to make a separate page for each image adn then add the sizes and centering code.

Or you can go to your frame source and add scroll='auto' to that middle frame. Then scrollbars will appear automatically if something is too big to fit.

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[axoi]

What I would suggest is that you either convert the bigger images into PDF to allow the end user to scroll around the image, you resize the images to all the same size (best), or you look into a jpg or gif view plugin. These solutions won't mess with your page layouts and then will drop right into the image slot like you've designed. The scroll bars are also an option like ryan said but having more than one set of scroll bars might confuse some users.

- Bill

[Ryan8720]

I hate when PDF's are embedded though. You have to wait for Acrobat Reader to load. Plus some users don't have Acrobat Reader.

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ryan and bill thanks again for the help!!!!!!!!
i dont like the pdf option but would maybe think about the viewer plugin.... ryan you keep refering to fames headache.... how would i do this sort of style gallery without it..???
thank you both for the help!

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[solcjoye]

my .02 is that I wouldnt do that style gallery at all, I would still have a new window pop-up without the menu on top, and w/o the scroll bars etc etc.

I think it is MUCH simpler, and I HATE frames...

-Sol

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okay.... will ask around some ppl and see what the consesus is.... ! with or without frames!!!!!!!!!!! thanks sol for your advice!!! greatly appreciated!!!!!!!

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[Ryan8720]

The popups would work, or you could make a separate page for each.

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[style]

making a seperate page for each.... doesnt that take just as long to load?

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[Ryan8720]

Yes, but then you wouldn't have to have separate sections pieced together. You won't have to mess with all the different frames cutting each other off. And it helps search engines spider your site. You can use includes of some sort (PHP, ASP, SSI) to include the nav and other stuff so it is easier to update.

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ah hah!!! well that should take me aaaages to figure out!! but now i know wot to look for thanks to you i will get down to it...
..i just got golivecs so maybe that will help me rather then fp!! thanks a ton ryan!!

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[vzero]

When im doing a gallery like this i Just use the Photoshop automate export and fix up the code after. Its fast way to get all your pics onto seperate pages and get the thumbs generated and small.

its under file>>automate>>webpage

i then take these files it makes and use em in my sites

i know its not the 'cleanest' way but it is the fastest