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Image
05-29-2005, 03:58 AM
Hi!
I'm new to the community, and wanted to become an active part, so I thought I'd introduce myself and tell you all a little bit about me (but I'll be brief).
I live in Las Vegas, and own an art company here called Image Art and Design. I have been a graphic designer for about two years. Prior to that I owned a printing company, which I also started, called Design & Print. Because of that experience, I know basically everything there is to know about Digital and Offset printing. From preproduction to boxing, I'm pretty much the authority on it.
I have decent experience in graphic design from hotels and nightclubs to small businesses and even the NFL.
I'm looking forward to offering constructive criticism, helping generate ideas, and being a genuinely active part of the community. I also have a terrible fear of posting my own art for fear it will get stolen!
So that's me.
Good to meet you!
Hope you like me.
A.
Hi Image, welcome to the forum. Glad to see another person from the west in here to balance all the "east coasties" http://home.comcast.net/~rnick9/koolsmiley.gif
D-Frag
05-29-2005, 08:03 AM
Yeah, me and Kool are the only cowboys in here :) Anyways, welcome to the forum, enjoy your stay! :cheers:
Ryan8720
05-29-2005, 12:33 PM
Welcome!
morea
05-29-2005, 01:17 PM
Great to have you aboard, Image!
Neuro
05-29-2005, 01:42 PM
Welcome aboard. Sounds like you have some great experience and wisdom to add to the forum.
Cheers!
Jeff Fisher LogoMotives
05-29-2005, 03:05 PM
Welcome to the GDF!
I also have a terrible fear of posting my own art for fear it will get stolen!
Better get over that fear and start promoting your work via the Internet. The vast majority of my work comes to from clients around the world who have found me by seeing examples of my work online. In fact, one of the great places to post is the gallery section at Graphics.com (http://www.graphics.com/modules.php?name=Gallery)
- J.
Takayuki
05-30-2005, 01:10 AM
Welcome Image!!
Don't fear but show your Art, thats the way to let everyone know who you are.
D-Zine
05-30-2005, 03:49 AM
Hey Image! Welcome to the GDF :)
Tyger
05-30-2005, 02:14 PM
Welcome to the forums Image. Looks like you have quite a bit of experience to contribute!
Image
05-30-2005, 06:23 PM
Wow! Thanks for the warm welcome everyone! I'm glad to be here.
There's a lot of easterners here? Hmm, well, glad to help balance it out, Pardner. :tips hat:
If you guys have any questions about anything feel free to email me. I suppose I'll start posting my art for you guys to see, I'll start with my BCs and a couple other BCs I have done.
Should I blur out customer phone numbers on Business Cards that I post?
I have never seen a forum commmunity so eager to help and welcome. I'm sure I'll feel at home.
Thanks!
Should I blur out customer phone numbers on Business Cards that I post?
Thanks!
It's up to you. Since BCs are created to be seen by the public it probably won't matter but the again maybe better safe than sorry. http://home.comcast.net/~rnick9/koolsmiley.gif
Image
05-30-2005, 07:03 PM
Forgiive how untrusting I am, but the only reason I might is so people wouldn't try to steal my clients!
I live in the land of cutthroat designers. You wouldn't belive the amount of artwork and clients I've had taken from me. It isn't even that I don't take proper precautions, but the jerks get crafty. It's a jungle out here, so I'm always on guard.
Ghastly
05-30-2005, 07:23 PM
For me it would be just as difficult to handle my work being stolen as it would to be given credit for someone elses. :eek: I am willing to bet that the majority of us share the same ideals...A good artist or designer should have a strong sense of pride...and if someone is c**p enough that they need to steal somebody elses work, is it not logical to assume that the rest of their *port-folio* would betray them? :cool:
Welcome to the forum :D
Jeff Fisher LogoMotives
05-30-2005, 07:25 PM
Forgiive how untrusting I am, but the only reason I might is so people wouldn't try to steal my clients!
I live in the land of cutthroat designers. You wouldn't belive the amount of artwork and clients I've had taken from me. It isn't even that I don't take proper precautions, but the jerks get crafty. It's a jungle out here, so I'm always on guard.
After getting out of design school, over 25 years ago, I learned from a wise ad agency owner that no one "steals" clients - clients are "lost." If you are providing the service for your client requires, and doing the best job possible, that client should have no reason to go elsewhere. I've got numerous clients that I've done work for from 10-18 years. Most of the ones who have gone away over time needed to do so.
- J.
Image
05-30-2005, 07:39 PM
Not neccessarily. In fact, I believe that that information is false.
It's a painful fact that many many people are motivated by economy. Also, (I don't know about anywhere else), but here, graphic designers come and go, hire and fire, arrive and move like water. It takes a certain type of business person here to actually get familiar with their graphic designer and value them faithfully.
So many times I've seen a designer take a client from another who was working for for X dollars per job or hour. The new designer charged x/2, which is why he got the job, and the work the new amateur produced was atrocious. But the time the company realizes it, another designer has already come around offering to do a better job/charge less/dress more snazzy/stand on his head/what have you.
It's extremely difficult to get a loyal client. I also know designers who work in teams, splitting different jobs from different clients. They interchange jobs and meetings based on their schedules and workloads, and the clients never really know the difference. Most don't care, as long as the work gets done an looks alright. Because of this, it's extremely easy to take a client, because the client doesn't care, in some cases, who does it, who you are, who the new guy is, etc. It's not a common mentality here to have a graphic designer the same way you have a lawyer or a doctor. A lot of that is perpetuated by printing companies with in house graphic deisgners. That practice waters down the sense of importance and individuality of any given designer.
Granted I do have some clients that would scoff at an offer from another designer, true. My hotels and nightclubs don't even accept proposals. However, it isn't either extreme. Clients car "lost," but to strike out the poosibility that clients can be "stolen" is a little hasty and matter-of-fact.
Image
05-30-2005, 07:41 PM
For me it would be just as difficult to handle my work being stolen as it would to be given credit for someone elses
I didn't really think of it that way. Alright, Ima stop being a baby, you guys are my friends.
Welcome to the forum :D
and thanks!
Jeff Fisher LogoMotives
05-30-2005, 07:50 PM
In 27 years as a designer I've never had a client stolen. I've had a few where one of us may have outgrown the relationship and a decision has been made to move on. I've had quite a few that I've resigned over time because the work was not what I wanted to be doing any longer. In most of my client situations, the issue of someone else attempting to steal the client by undercutting rates does not even come up - primarily due to the fact that I work at creating relationships with my clientele that do stand the test of time. My clients enjoy working with me and, even if they move elsewhere job-wise or geographically, the work still comes my way. Still, I don't take my clients for granted and do work at maintaining a mutually beneficial relationship.
I have had my work "stolen" by other designers, who have claimed it as their own and showcased it in their personal portfolio. Luckily, with the exposure my work has received, they most often get caught. One designer was unlucky enough to steal some of my work, display it in her portfolio as her own and then present it to a creative director in a job interview - the CD had been my best friend since I was 12 years old. The designer was basically blacklisted in the local market.
- J.
I have had my work "stolen" by other designers, who have claimed it as their own and showcased it in their personal portfolio. Luckily, with the exposure my work has received, they most often get caught. One designer was unlucky enough to steal some of my work, display it in her portfolio as her own and then present it to a creative director in a job interview - the CD had been my best friend since I was 12 years old. The designer was basically blacklisted in the local market.
- J.
Hahahhahahaha, oh thats funny. http://home.comcast.net/~rnick9/koolsmiley.gif
Image
05-30-2005, 08:07 PM
That is funny.
I've seen my art in portfolios before. I've never had the luxury of seeing the thief get his just desserts though.
meugeniacc
06-07-2005, 02:52 PM
yeap! when I was in college i had the same problem. I would bring something and the next day, many of my classmates had something similar. It was very frustrating.
During our senior exhibit, though, one of my classmates didn't get to show some of her work because one of my professors realized that she was copying my work.