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Craig B
06-21-2005, 11:07 PM
A coworker of mine is working on a brochure that talks about changes taking place in the financial industry (not terribly exciting.) He showed a few nice, abstract cover ideas, using a few simple photos and the client responded with this art direction/feedback:

This has not been edited and this is 100% real.

In terms of relevant images, I would be thinking along the lines of some kind of abstract/surreal representation of a workplace with workers sitting in regimented rows and in mono or just two colour outfits. Some more colourfully dressed employees could be buried in the foundations (these are the ‘hidden stars’). The whole edifice would be located on a volcano or a burning bush/mountain, or set precariously over water as per a bridge. Someone (the CEO) would be shouting exhortations into a megaphone and most would ignore listlessly, but others would be moving and there would be a stream of people moving towards a more attractive, clearly prosperous citadel in the distance. On the way, they would be trying on different sets of clothing/fancy dress outfits as if at a children’s party, and discarding some. The interim ground would be a desert (shades of Moses leading the chosen people out of the wilderness and also alluding to the comment in the report of the need to go through a Valley of Death for deep change to take place). Some would be picked off by circling vultures as they cross the desert.

If I had to condense this into just a few images, I’d home in on the idea of people trying on different outfits and personae for size (picking up on the consumer lifestyle programmes) and morphing from dreary drones to shiny new empowered ants! The burning platform and the idea of no going back is another powerful image.

Alternatively, the designers could pick up on the single idea of metamorphosis, and look for abstract images of this, but ideally we want it in the context that if the transformation does not take place, death will occur. In other words, there has to be a presumption that change is essential for survival – so they could borrow from images of evolutionary/survival of the fittest.

They could take an image of a treadmill with different scenes at the various points eg companies that stay put (Victorian imagery/industrial revolution) and others which our empowered employees trying on outfits, racing into the future.

If the designers are only working with photo libraries – in which case they can presumably only handle collages and special effects, realising any of the above ideas could be tough, so your idea of pure graphics would also be very effective – ie the cover could show the letters in the words change management passing through all kinds of transformations – sea-changes, step changes, ex-change, changing rooms, as per one of the sections in the report, passing through a house with lots of rooms and options and emerging from other doors in a new font, mirror image, transposed, glammed up.

Kool
06-21-2005, 11:35 PM
Seems clear enough to me ;) LMAO

cjoe
06-21-2005, 11:39 PM
In terms of relevant images, I would be thinking along the lines of some kind of abstract/surreal representation of a workplace with workers sitting in regimented rows and in mono or just two colour outfits. Some more colourfully dressed employees could be buried in the foundations (these are the ‘hidden stars’). The whole edifice would be located on a volcano or a burning bush/mountain, or set precariously over water as per a bridge.


LMAO! Thats pancaking hilarious! That person has a serious clothes fetish. The only thing i found in there that would be good (for a TV commercial) was the idea of people in Mono outfits in an office. but on a volcano i dont think so!

cbscreative
06-22-2005, 02:21 AM
Somehow, somewhere, there must be a contest for that.

cjoe
06-22-2005, 03:30 AM
Somehow, somewhere, there must be a contest for that.

someone (i.e. you) should suggest that to the mods.

3howards
06-22-2005, 03:33 AM
omg, somebody quick .. tell this guy/gal it's a brochure, not a movie.

Mynock
06-22-2005, 04:07 AM
you lost me at "edifice"

defjoe
06-22-2005, 12:47 PM
I'd illustrate this... for a HUGE price.

keith1
06-22-2005, 01:04 PM
Is this brochure going to have an imbedded video screen?

The_Black_Knight
06-22-2005, 01:07 PM
That really is the worst I've ever heard of. I would like to know what drugs that guy is on, because they must be really, really potent, and I would love to score some.

Someone where I used to work got direction that was almost as bad. They had to find a stock photo of a person in their fifties (no problem) that was talking to a doctor (fine, that's doable), and (here's the kicker) they had to look like they were thinking about diabetes.

So what, I ask, does someone that is thinking about diabetes look like? Is it a different look than when someone is wondering "Did I leave the iron on?"

Do people actually realize how stupid this stuff sounds when they say it?

morea
06-22-2005, 01:12 PM
as to the original post. :eek: My eyes kept glazing over about halfway through.

and "thinking about diabetes"? that's one I've never heard before! Can you hear the photographer now?

"Ok, show me 'thinking about a colonoscopy'... good! GOOD! That's it... now, 'thinking about your prostate'... YES! Excellent! And now 'thinking about diabetes'... that's it! Perfect!"


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Great user name. I just watched the Holy Grail last night, as a matter of fact! ;)

keith1
06-22-2005, 01:25 PM
That really is the worst I've ever heard of. I would like to know what drugs that guy is on, because they must be really, really potent, and I would love to score some.

Someone where I used to work got direction that was almost as bad. They had to find a stock photo of a person in their fifties (no problem) that was talking to a doctor (fine, that's doable), and (here's the kicker) they had to look like they were thinking about diabetes.

So what, I ask, does someone that is thinking about diabetes look like? Is it a different look than when someone is wondering "Did I leave the iron on?"

Do people actually realize how stupid this stuff sounds when they say it?


Actually there is a different look for when your thinking about diabetes. But you need to be a keen observer to notice the subtle differences. People in deep thought about diabetes look similar to people in deep though about constipation which differs greatly from people actually experiencing constipation. :) Welcome to the forum!!

greyghost
06-22-2005, 02:58 PM
OMG, this person is NUTS!
It'd be a fun illustration to do... if you had a freaking YEAR to do it... and got a HUGE amount of money. 3 years salary.

Craig B
06-22-2005, 03:09 PM
You're right about this being a good contest. Heck, it would be a great forum section "Bad Art Direction"

... thinking about diabetes ... that's classic.

We're going to tell this crazy woman basically to go elsewhere (becasue we don't need this level of crazy) or choose one of our original concepts. We'll see what happens. I feel like a "shiny empowered ant" already.

Craig B
06-22-2005, 03:10 PM
I was thinking about doing a quick hack job, photoshop collage of everything she requested and sending it to her to show her jsut how bad it would look and just how crazy she was, but I was worried that she woudl see the bad collage and say, "that's perfect! It's exactly what I was looking for!"

Patrick Shannon
06-22-2005, 03:44 PM
At least that would make the job much easier on you, right? Who needs the back n' forth banter and constant revision crap ;)

The_Black_Knight
06-22-2005, 04:54 PM
...and "thinking about diabetes"? that's one I've never heard before! Can you hear the photographer now?...
Yeah, that would be quite a photo shoot.

At the same workplace, we also got a request for a "silhouette of a middle-aged African American male, slightly overweight, but not TOO overweight, and not looking too much like a minority as to seem rascist." (stock photo, of course; heaven forbid we PAY for a photo shoot) for a heart disease program we were putting together. You really just can't make this stuff up. None of that even comes close to the original post for this thread, though.

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Great user name. I just watched the Holy Grail last night, as a matter of fact! ;)
Thanks for the welcome, all. I'll be getting a suitable avatar when I have a chance (i.e., when I'm not at work). I need to watch the film again, it's been a while. Of course, I think I can recite it from start to finish, but that would just be showing how much of a dork I am.
:D

Mynock
06-22-2005, 05:17 PM
I'll be getting a suitable avatar when I have a chance (i.e., when I'm not at work). I need to watch the film again, it's been a while. Of course, I think I can recite it from start to finish, but that would just be showing how much of a dork I am.
:D

We can help, even if we are at work.

Mynock
06-22-2005, 05:19 PM
Do you mean this black knight?

morea
06-22-2005, 05:24 PM
yup.

http://www.emerchandise.com/images/p/MPT/pdSTMPT0002.jpg

morea
06-22-2005, 06:00 PM
here you go :D

The_Black_Knight
06-22-2005, 06:23 PM
Those Black Knight pictures are pretty good. If I don't find anything better later, I'll just pull one of those. Thanks!