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fightstudy
07-29-2005, 06:40 PM
Hi all,
I'm trying to start up a matial arts based website called fightstudy.com. I drew the logo myself by hand then got a friend to trace over it on the computer. What do you guys think? Is there anyone out there that thinks they may be able to tweak it for me if need be?
http://www.fightstudy.com/fight.png
Ok - I don't know why its got a blue background. It was done on Gimp - does that make a difference? A couple of the fingers look slightly off but I'm not sure if I should change it. Any advice?
Thanks
chalsema
07-29-2005, 06:48 PM
One thing I notice is that I don't see a thumb...
Other than that I kind of like the rough feel to it.
keith1
07-29-2005, 06:51 PM
What do you guys think?
It's very large. It's good that you did it in black & white. The fist needs a lot of help.
Is there anyone out there that thinks they may be able to tweak it for me if need be?
The answer to that would be yes, if you list it in the classified section but it won't be free, I promise.
It was done on Gimp - does that make a difference?
Not familar with Gimp, but if it works how it sounds, there might be a problem.
Welcome to the forum. :D
I don't really care for the concept, but that's a personal opinion and immaterial. It needs a lot of work to clean it up. That was done with an autotrace program and is really rough. Somebody with some illustrator skills can fix it up for you but it will cost. It does kinda need a thumb.
fightstudy
07-29-2005, 07:07 PM
[QUOTE=keith1]What do you guys think?
It's very large. It's good that you did it in black & white. The fist needs a lot of help.
Is there anyone out there that thinks they may be able to tweak it for me if need be?
The answer to that would be yes, if you list it in the classified section but it won't be free, I promise.
[QUOTE]
How much do you reckon? I don't mind paying, but I don't want to get ripped off!
Is it ok as a start or should I start a fresh?
Cheers
fightstudy
07-29-2005, 07:11 PM
I can see the thumb? Maybe it's because I did the original drawing. For some reason my friend didn't include the thumbnail.
keith1
07-29-2005, 07:14 PM
Post it here for help http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=33
It will cost you especially if you want someone to design your logo for you from here.
It's not a bad start but you should be working on more than one idea especially if this is gonna be some sort of business. I wouldn't call this a final, not even close, I'd call it a rough sketch idea on a napkin. Is this website for fun or do you plan to generate business?
DeleteYourself
07-29-2005, 07:23 PM
I see the thumb now, but only after I was told it was a thumb. It looked like a wrist at first. Yes, it needs a thumbnail.
I think the concept is definitely weak. The word "study" was just slapped on there, no rhyme or reason to it's placement, also I'm not fond of the brass-knuckles drawing, either. I think you need to go back to the brainstorming stage and reevaluate.
fightstudy
07-29-2005, 07:27 PM
Thanks. I've posted this in the classifides. Basically this was a design idea I did on my whiteboard at home and then took a photo for my friend to trace. He just did the outline for me and I wanted to post it here before I put any more time, or start to put any money into it.
The website's just for fun at the moment.
danedawg99
07-29-2005, 07:41 PM
the fist is not anatomically correct at all. had you not told me that it was, in fact, a fist, I'm not sure i'd have guessed it. I might suggest looking at George Bridgman's books on hands or Burne Hogarth's book on Dynamic Hands. I like the roughness and think that you could push it further in that direction. :D
hope this helps
uncle carbunkle
07-29-2005, 10:24 PM
i would have troubles justifying the brass knuckles on a logo for a martial arts forum. doesn't seem overly 'zen', now does it?
INDY GS
07-29-2005, 10:28 PM
Reminds me too much of this....
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000062XM3.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
i would have troubles justifying the brass knuckles on a logo for a martial arts forum. doesn't seem overly 'zen', now does it?
ROMPFL - Rolling on the mother pancaking floor laughing :D
fightstudy
07-29-2005, 10:48 PM
i would have troubles justifying the brass knuckles on a logo for a martial arts forum. doesn't seem overly 'zen', now does it?
Thats what a friend of mine said - it's not going to be a traditional martial arts website. It'll include an inventory of various techniques and conditioning methods and include some examples used in competition fights and maybe a section to analyse street fights if I can get hold of any clips. It'll literally be a website for studying fighting techniques...I'm trying to steer clear of the zen/philoophy side of it.
I'm finding it difficult coming up with alternative ideas. I've looked through a load of magazines and many martial art companies don't even have logos from what I can see. With the ones that do, a common theme is of two guys fighting with one guy doing a high kick but this isn't very original. I've googled 'fight' 'punch' and 'kick' for some inspiration but haven't found any. Hmmm.....
uncle carbunkle
07-29-2005, 11:10 PM
good luck with that, then.
your fist is just as cliche as the 'kick', 'punch', 'fight' themes. i'm not dissin' you as such - i understand your dilemma.
just, whenever i see someone wearing a uniform or t-shirt with a fist on it like that, it makes me want to punch it. like a high-five, only more fun. ;)
if your satisified with your createion then thats just fine.
However, from a proffessional stand point it lacks.
The ideas is present but, lack of the technical aspects associated with the creation are really making it appear amaturish.
A logo is suppose to increase presence not decrease it.
In the end, the idea bedind the intial design is well done, but technical speaking it is no were near done.
Did your friend trace the logo in a vector program cause it appears he did it in a raster program?
It would benifit you to hire someone professional and have them turn what you have (because it is a good idea) into a finished "illustrative" logo.
Since, that is approach your taking.
LLama7
07-30-2005, 07:14 AM
It is way to similar to the FIGHT CLUB logo for one thing. You also have to realize that to get a good logo, you are going to pay huge money. 60 bucks an hour is on the low end for a good design. Spending any less than a few grand on a logo is insane. Now, how much money will this web site generate for you? Is it going to be worth your time to invest this much money for a logo? You could go the cheap route, they are out there, but the new logo will be about the same quality as the one you have now.
fightstudy
07-30-2005, 10:38 AM
if your satisified with your createion then thats just fine.
However, from a proffessional stand point it lacks.
The ideas is present but, lack of the technical aspects associated with the creation are really making it appear amaturish.
A logo is suppose to increase presence not decrease it.
In the end, the idea bedind the intial design is well done, but technical speaking it is no were near done.
Did your friend trace the logo in a vector program cause it appears he did it in a raster program?
It would benifit you to hire someone professional and have them turn what you have (because it is a good idea) into a finished "illustrative" logo.
Since, that is approach your taking.
Thanks for the feedback. I don't even know the difference between vector and rasta - thats why I left my friend to do it, lol. I'll ask him though. My orginaly drawing that he traced was very sketchy and I think it's picked up on lines I didn't want it to.
Unfortunately I don't have thousands I can invest in the logo (I've taken it out from the classifides now) so I'll have to see what I can do with it. I know a few other computer wizards so I'll see if they know anything about design that can help.
Thanks for all the feedback. I'll try to come back with some kind of improvement (which shouldn't be too hard) at a later stage.