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    I was fortunate enough to get a client's contact info who wants to start a side business and wanted to hire a college student majoring in web design from one of my computer science professors last semester. I'm as close as it gets, majoring in computer science (nothing deeper at my university), but I'm pretty nervous about it. I've never actually had a client relationship before or know much about the business end of this. I know pricing discussion isn't allowed, so that's out the window on this one. What I need to know is how long of a time estimate to give the client, whether I should charge a flat project rate or hourly, etc. My Google-Fu has given me an array of answers, most of which are pretty non-specific.

    I have talked with my client twice, but both conversations have been very brief. I have experience in non-professional web design and created a web application for student organizations last semester with a "group" (myself and another guy did all the work). I did all the front end HTML and CSS with a bit of Twitter Bootstrap. It was the largest project any of us had undertaken, and 60% of the work got done within 2 weeks, though it didn't come out looking as well as I'd hoped when viewing in other browsers, especially in IE.

    Again, I'm needing some advice on how to handle the business side, as the creative side can be spoken for or fixed shortly. The client requested a student specifically, so I hope that comes into play in later discussions, but the last thing I want to do is make a habit of playing the lack-of-experience sympathy card.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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    • #3
      I suppose being the suspicious type, I'd want to know why they want to hire a student. I'd also check into what their current business is and how it was run.

      You haven't exactly specified what it is the client wants you to do.
      Whatever it is, be sure you write up a contract stating deliverables, due dates, payment schedules etc.

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      • #4
        This project would obviously need to look the same in all major browsers. My client gave me an example site of what he wants it to look like, and I can safely say it requires nothing more than some basic back-end models, HTML (circa v3), CSS (whatever's supported), and JQuery. An image or two (probably just logo and background) would be required of me.

        Given all this and what we've talked about, I'm very hesitant to even take the job. I have the HTML and CSS part down, but I haven't dealt with the JQ library before, just some simple JS. I'm a full-time student working on another web app project and flipping burgers to get by. I fear I'll be too busy to complete it within a reasonable time frame beyond what the client could do himself with something like Host Gator's website builder. We're set to talk later today on whether he needs just a website or a web app and all the other details we haven't discussed yet.

        OK, great. I've now turned this into career help.

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        • #5
          I got to ask, is this a paid gig?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by jsng12 View Post
            This project would obviously need to look the same in all major browsers. My client gave me an example site of what he wants it to look like, and I can safely say it requires nothing more than some basic back-end models, HTML (circa v3), CSS (whatever's supported), and JQuery. An image or two (probably just logo and background) would be required of me.

            Given all this and what we've talked about, I'm very hesitant to even take the job. I have the HTML and CSS part down, but I haven't dealt with the JQ library before, just some simple JS. I'm a full-time student working on another web app project and flipping burgers to get by. I fear I'll be too busy to complete it within a reasonable time frame beyond what the client could do himself with something like Host Gator's website builder. We're set to talk later today on whether he needs just a website or a web app and all the other details we haven't discussed yet.

            OK, great. I've now turned this into career help.
            So basically you're admitting you don't know how to do what they are wanting you to do. That's not a shot at you. Just restating what you said.

            You also said you were potentially too busy to take on the job.

            Those two reasons right there should tell you whether or not to take it.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by PrintDriver View Post
              I suppose being the suspicious type, I'd want to know why they want to hire a student. I'd also check into what their current business is and how it was run.

              You haven't exactly specified what it is the client wants you to do.
              Whatever it is, be sure you write up a contract stating deliverables, due dates, payment schedules etc.

              This x1000

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Buda View Post
                I got to ask, is this a paid gig?
                Yes, it is, I'm just not sure what to charge for it. I was called into work today and won't have a chance to talk to the client again until Wednesday regarding all that.

                Originally posted by Cosmo View Post
                So basically you're admitting you don't know how to do what they are wanting you to do. That's not a shot at you. Just restating what you said.

                You also said you were potentially too busy to take on the job.

                Those two reasons right there should tell you whether or not to take it.
                I am leaning toward that after thinking more, but my old professor (who tells me I underestimate myself, which I can't seem to buy) told me to meet with him Wednesday to discuss everything in depth. I've also talked to a couple other people more than willing to help me out. I'll wait until my sit down Wednesday to make a final decision after I take in everything I can up to that point.

                Now, it's not that I don't know how to make everything work, it's just the fact of getting it done in an efficient manner with good practice applied. Sure, I haven't messed with JQuery, but very little of it was used on the example site the client gave me (just one small script for some text fade and character jumbling in the header). I just don't want to have to constantly learn things as I go through this, as that leaves a much greater possibility for a bad impression and potentially a shot at my small reputation early on. I'm sure I would have to do that anyway, but I don't need a list of things to google while just in the planning period.

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                • #9
                  You will always be constantly learning on this job. Part of doing that is building up resources so you know where to go to find the RIGHT answer. (Hint, an internet forum isn't always the right resource.)

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                  • #10
                    After talking with my professor about it, I've decided to go along with the job as best I can. The real selling point of the conversation was the leniency on time and a gift of what I'm told is a great web page creation tool that has somehow escaped me for years. I'll see how it goes.

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