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  • About how to create gradient..! help! thanks!

    Hi all,
    I am a newbie here,
    I want to create a gradient for a polygon with some arcs. So how to fill gradient among the line of polygon with Adobe Illustrator or PhotoShop? Are these good tools to do this skill?

    An example like this flower: http://www1.ttvnol.com/uploaded2/koolj/gradient.jpg

    Pls help me this with your skill, i apreciate all your comment!
    Thanks!

    KJ.
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  • #2
    Welcome Koolj.

    Under your Help Menu in Illustrator, you will find tutorials.
    I recommend using some of the basic tutorials to get accustomed to using the different tools in Illustrator or Photoshop.

    I would use Illustrator for the gradients you were showing.
    I would use the gradient tool under the Windows Menu.

    Enjoy the learning curve. Explore the tools, don't be in a hurry, there is alot to learn.
    Viki Anderson Graphics & Design on Demand
    Through the Looking Glass



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    • #3
      Thank Vikia!

      Originally posted by Vikia
      Welcome Koolj.

      Under your Help Menu in Illustrator, you will find tutorials.
      I recommend using some of the basic tutorials to get accustomed to using the different tools in Illustrator or Photoshop.

      I would use Illustrator for the gradients you were showing.
      I would use the gradient tool under the Windows Menu.

      Enjoy the learning curve. Explore the tools, don't be in a hurry, there is alot to learn.
      Thank 4 your idea!
      I tried so many times, you can see this pic: http://www5.ttvnol.com/uploaded2/koolj/gradient_2.jpg
      This Illustrator can do gradient only two types "Radial" or "linenear". And it can not be curved in to line of arcs.

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      • #4
        Try the gradient Mesh tool. It takes a bit of getting use to. Its a little advanced and you have to be good with controling the pen tool/using handlebars etc. You can colorize and control the gradient by each node.

        Play with it and try to keep the points simple.

        1. Draw the shape (one pedal of the flower for example) and give it a solid fill.
        Its also more effective to keep the shape you drew with minimal points. The more points, the more problems. Since the shape you want is pretty basic you can do it this metheod.
        2. Select the gradient mesh tool (tool bar) and click on your drawn shape. Each time you click, you are adding a node/point to the shape, which is both moveable and editable for colors. I highly recommending using minimal nodes and using handle bars to adjust shape. Play with it until you have one pedal done.
        3. Copy, paste and arrange as you see fit.

        Hope that helps, the Gradient Mesh tool takes some practice and getting use to. Think of it like you would a 3D object.
        "You're just jealous because YOUR hat doesn't have a clock in it!"

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Danger_Mouse
          Try the gradient Mesh tool. It takes a bit of getting use to. Its a little advanced and you have to be good with controling the pen tool/using handlebars etc. You can colorize and control the gradient by each node.

          Play with it and try to keep the points simple.

          1. Draw the shape (one pedal of the flower for example) and give it a solid fill.
          Its also more effective to keep the shape you drew with minimal points. The more points, the more problems. Since the shape you want is pretty basic you can do it this metheod.
          2. Select the gradient mesh tool (tool bar) and click on your drawn shape. Each time you click, you are adding a node/point to the shape, which is both moveable and editable for colors. I highly recommending using minimal nodes and using handle bars to adjust shape. Play with it until you have one pedal done.
          3. Copy, paste and arrange as you see fit.

          Hope that helps, the Gradient Mesh tool takes some practice and getting use to. Think of it like you would a 3D object.
          Thanks MOUSE!
          I fisnished step 1, then in step 2, i could not find the gradient mesh tool onthe tool bar, theres only Gradial tool, and mesh tool, theres no any gradient mesh tool there. See img: http://www5.ttvnol.com/uploaded2/koolj/gradient_4.jpg

          Is that be hiddened?

          Thank you so much!
          KJ

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          • #6
            Originally posted by koolj
            That is not a gradient, that is a color blend. Each petal has a color blend from white to orange, and each petal has a lowered opacity. Then they are placed overlapping each other.
            Ned Yeung, A.C.E.
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            • #7
              Yeah sorry I meant the MESH tool, I always call it the gradient mesh tool.Doh

              Neds suggestion is also good one for this......although I find in the past when I am dealing with color blends the file size tends to go up much quicker. Especially when dealing with alot of them. Still, depending on the project, probably is the better way to go.
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              • #8
                Thank Mouse and Ned!

                But my conern is: it seems like my illustrator, the gradient can not be applied when a mesh for the shape is used. When the shape is meshed, i could not choose any gradient. in to the shape.

                I use Ill CS2 Ver 12.0.1 as you can see in pic: http://www5.ttvnol.com/uploaded2/koolj/gradient_4.jpg

                I think i set in wrong mode of editing mesh with gradient.

                Also in the help it is noted that:

                Features that donít work on Live Paint groups:
                Transparency
                Brushes
                Effects
                Gradient meshes
                Graphs
                ....

                Do i go the rigth way?
                Thank 4 all your help!

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                • #9
                  well you dont apply a gradient as such you are creating it through the mesh. Set a solid fill (color 1 of your gradient), right after you add a point with the mesh change that node to another color NOT a gradient. By making that single node another color you "create" a gradient. You will see what I mean. You can add as many nodes as you want, changing each to a different color. But as I said, its best to keep it as minimal as possible. Ive attached a quick screenshot for you. From what I think you want to achieve you should be able to get in 1 -4 mesh points. Sorry I only did I circle I was going for a quick diagram.

                  Was Ned's suggestion not applicable? It's a good metheod if used on smaller scale and may suite your need. Both could achieve the same results.

                  As for Live Paint, I have never used that feature but now you have me curious.....reading files now.
                  Last edited by Danger_Mouse; 10-15-2008, 07:32 PM.
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                  • #10
                    I'm not sure what Ned means by colour blend. Unless he's thinking about what I would call a shape blend. In Corel, it would be a contour group. Basically, a copy of the outside shape is generated as an offset inwards and set to the lightest colour, then a blend group is constructed between the two. Repeated for each unique petal shape, and transparency set to each shape for the final effect. This way you can avoid the mesh tool--which, while a very useful tool, does severely limit the final file's overall flexibility. Meshes might appear to be vector, but in the reality of postscript outputting, they're anything but.

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                    • #11
                      Yes, Broacher, that is exactly what I mean by a color blend.
                      Ned Yeung, A.C.E.
                      mediamainline.com
                      cyclopsphoto.ca

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                      • #12
                        Yeah I call that the Blend tool too.

                        Meshes might appear to be vector, but in the reality of postscript outputting, they're anything but.
                        So from a print postscript standpoint, gradient meshes are not co-operative? Why so?
                        I have never had a problem, but would like to know what if any issues there are. Can you elaborate a bit on that for me Broach?

                        Why oh why doesn't adobe create software that never has any issues with the printer. Wouldn't that be great? Where postscript errrors where a thing of the past, files are always compatible, and maybe even come with a free ice cream every friday. sigh....to dream.
                        Last edited by Danger_Mouse; 09-10-2006, 01:23 PM.
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                        • #13
                          wow...done!

                          Thanks Mouse!
                          wow...it's done!

                          Thank all of you so much!

                          But another conern is how can i trasparent the color that the other color do gradient to.
                          Like above, can i change the color RED from tranparent 100 to 1% by following this skill so the transparent line can b curved as that gradient effect?

                          I try some, but the problem is when i chose the second color to do gradient to i could not identify the trasparent setting of that color?

                          Pls help me this skill! thanks!
                          KJ.
                          Last edited by koolj; 09-10-2006, 02:33 PM.

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                          • #14
                            I can't remember how to actually make the points transparent. I seem to remember a thread in the resource section of GDF discussing this. But I may be thinking of something else. I am pretty sure its NOT possible to change individual nodes tranparency themselves, but there is a trick to get same results other than what I have shown you.
                            Are you finding this metheod effective at all for what you are doing? I would hate to bark you up the wrong tree....what kind of background are you working with? I say again, depending on what exactly you are working on...Ned/broachers metheod might be your better route. Post what you are working on so we can take a look.
                            Keep in mindTransparencies will cause major undesired printing issues unless you flatten the entire image.

                            The metheod I have shown you in diagram as I said will work fine for simple backgrounds, but it gets much more advanced if on muticolored images (like a photograph). You just have to play around with things, take use of any tutorials you can find.
                            Last edited by Danger_Mouse; 10-15-2008, 07:32 PM.
                            "You're just jealous because YOUR hat doesn't have a clock in it!"

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                            • #15
                              I hope Adobe builds transparency functionality for gradients into Illustrator, like you can do in Fireworks. It's very very handy.

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