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  • Giclee in the GTA

    I know there are a few designers in and around the GTA. Do any of you know of a decent printer that can do giclee prints. Preferrably the west side of the GTA. (yellow book search was useless)

    My cousin's wife has some paintings on canvas that she wants to sell and needs prints of.

    I don't want to exclude anyone so if any of you have questions I should be asking these printers feel free to speak up. Except for what I searched and read on this site I know little about it.

    Thanks in advance.

  • #2
    emucru, GTA=Toronto ? ( I obviously hail from another part of the world )

    I would ask printers to describe what clients they have worked with. The giclee process, as you may very well know, is often used to produce collector's prints by museums and galleries. The higher the client's connoisseurship, the higher the demand in quality product.

    If you do live in Toronto, I would even call Stephen Bulger Gallery to ask what local printers, if any, they have dealt with. They can at least point you in the right direction. You can also research additional galleries through artnet:

    http://www.artnet.com/net/galleries/...mber_galleries

    Hope this is helpful !
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    • #3
      hey i'm from the GTA, but sorry, can't help you, i don't even know what a giclee print is
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      • #4
        I don't live in Canada, but here's what giclee printing is 2 toe:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giclee
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        • #5
          I'd actually suggest you contact galleries showing giclee prints and ask which printers they recommend. A lot of printers say they print giclee quality but for what you pay for the name, you better be sure it's the best. You can get the same quality as giclee by asking a reputable printer for archival quality art prints...
          Buyer beware. Both the artist and the person buying the prints.

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          • #6
            Thanks everyone!!

            PD what are archival quality art prints?

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            • #7
              giclees.

              Or it least it better be what someone calls a giclee. But as soon as you say the word 'giclee' the price jumps 25% or more.

              You need archival quality substrate to start. This can be a variety of things from paper to textured art canvas. It generally needs to be matched to certain printers and their inks.

              Pigmented inks last longer than dye inks, so you want to verify pigment. Pigment inks have a smaller color gamut than dye inks but they have been improving that steadily.

              Some of the newer high-res printers are solvent based. I've found these a little bit more moisture forgiving than aqueous inkjet prints. However I have not had the time to dig up the latest Wilhelm reports on the new printers. Some are touting tests of 200 years at 400lux-12hourdays... yeah, right.

              Anyone that considers doing Fine Art Giclee prints should know what a Wilhelm report is and have an idea what they want to order.

              Giclee does NOT apply to photographic, continuous tone, fine art prints. These are produced using lasers and standard developing chemicals. They also can be archival or not.

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              • #8
                Great info. Thanks again.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by PrintDriver
                  I'd actually suggest you contact galleries showing giclee prints and ask which printers they recommend.
                  One quick add to this:
                  I mentioned Artnet before, but another good place to start is AIPAD:

                  http://www.aipad.com

                  Members are established art dealers and they would be a good resource for you in this project. A quick call can save you much time in on-line research through various galleries' inventory.
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                  • #10
                    I never knew what Giclee prints were and I do them all the time at work. We just call them inkjet prints
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                    • #11
                      <--- old dog ^^New Trick.

                      buda, you should upcharge your inkjets and sell them at that fancy schmantzy rich people thingie!
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                      • #12
                        To add to PD's explanation of archival, the papers they are printed on need to be of archival or museum quality as well. What that means is they need to be acid free, as the acids in papers will severely yellow the paper, discolor pigments, paints, inks, and become so brittle they can no longer be handled without disentegrating. Think of old newspapers and how fragile they become in a short amount of time.

                        That's why in museums, curators and conservation/ restoration workers will wear gloves. Too many oils on the skin, etc. However, spit is archival.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Tea
                          However, spit is archival.
                          LOL ! Does that still hold after a steak lunch ?
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                          • #14
                            LOL @ Buda. Yes they are just simple inkjet prints but run at the slowest, finest quality the printer will go and with archival materials (inks, media)

                            Giclee isn't necessarily printed on just paper. I know several artists who use the Frederick's canvas line. $$$. It's archival too. There are a few other lines out there too.

                            The main culprits in degradation of prints are ozone and light. That's why Wilhelm tests are done under glass and under measured light. Believe it or not, prints will fade in the dark as well. Wilhelm does dark-fading tests on many media sometimes with surprisingly reversed results.

                            A matched system can't be stressed enough. This includes mounting substrates and overlams if used.

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                            • #15
                              So if I get archival paper and ink for my inkjet, it's a Giclee?

                              The Epson 7600 will also be used to produce gicl&#233;e prints by artists and photographers who are just starting into this business. The ability of all Epson printers to accept the thick water color papers has endeared this name brand to artists across America and Canada.
                              Last edited by Buda; 02-01-2008, 12:01 AM.
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