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    How can i get simple single color logos, so i can cut decals for bass boats, ive been trying to match texts, but havent alot of success, I use signwarehouse LXI 10 expert software, or how do i scan in logos and vectorize them for cutting,,, ie. SHIMANO,,,,,fishing reels,,,Humminbird,,,,sonar, , Ranger boats....

  • #2
    You don't. Copying/tracing, is unacceptable.

    You don't cut and sell them either.

    Not unless you have a deal with Shimano, Humminbird and Ranger. It is a form of copyright infringement to make and sell someone else's logo cut in vinyl. If they find you, they will gig you. Anywhere from a C&D letter to a fullblown lawsuit.

    If you do have a deal with those entities, you need to contact their Publicity department for a Standards kit that will have the files you are looking for and the rules telling you which versions are used on what colors.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Dave Swimm View Post
      for cutting,,, ie. SHIMANO,,,,,fishing reels,,,Humminbird,,,,sonar, ,
      What kind of comma use is that? I have to ask, because typography does fall under graphic design, and I wonder why people do that.
      Last edited by The Lumberjack; 11-06-2011, 10:34 PM.

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      • #4
        Maybe a musician? Like a lot of little eighth rests. Exhausting to read until you convince your reading brain to ignore most of them. Probably meant to be periods as in ellipsis.

        Plural of ellipsis? Ellipses? Ellipsissies? Sipellepsy... Lip-o-selli...

        I'm going back for more Scotch.

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        • #5
          I think ellipses must be in multiples of three, but really, the ellipsis character (…) should be used instead of anything else.

          I've even been in an argument with a grown man insisting that there should be no space after a comma. The trouble is, I could not find a single source saying specifically that there should be a space after a comma. Apparently ol' man Aldus himself had the same bad habit.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Broacher View Post

            Plural of ellipsis? Ellipses? Ellipsissies? Sipellepsy... Lip-o-selli...

            I'm going back for more Scotch.
            Ellipses. You can trust me on that because all I've got is wine.

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            • #7
              I have a fully stocked bar, which is absolutely useless because I hardly ever drink, and people are far too unimaginative to ever ask me for a specific cocktail.

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              • #8
                Well, Mr. Lumberjack, I would take a Scotch Old Fashioned, please. I was taught to put a space behind the comma.

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                • #9
                  Corporate Logos

                  Gee, Thanks for saving me a lawsuit. So in order to do boat wraps I need corporate approval? I would have thought that companies that sell fishing equipment would love any exposure possible especially for free. I want to decal tournament boats, do I contact their marketing departments? By the way how's my punctuation ? Should there be a space between my last word and a question mark or not ?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dave Swimm View Post
                    Gee, Thanks for saving me a lawsuit. So in order to do boat wraps I need corporate approval? I would have thought that companies that sell fishing equipment would love any exposure possible especially for free. I want to decal tournament boats, do I contact their marketing departments? By the way how's my punctuation ? Should there be a space between my last word and a question mark or not ?
                    Houston, I think we have a smart ass.

                    Just in case you are not trying to be a smart ass, copyrights are in place in order to protect the copyright holder. Corporate branding falls under this category. Yes, it might seem a good idea for free publicity, but it also makes it look like that corporation is sponsoring the product it appears on.

                    But I'm leaning toward smart ass who thought a professional community would tell you how to profit from someone else's work illegally.

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                    • #11
                      It's called Brand Dilution.
                      Corporations like to control how their brand is perceived. And they certainly don't allow some hack trace to be done on their logo, even if they approve of use.

                      But some guy with a vinyl plotter that wants to make a quick buck probably won't believe that.

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                      • #12
                        brandsoftheworld.com is a good bet

                        if you cant find em there then have a look at their corporate site and lift the vectors from a pdf.

                        we all need other companies vector logos sometimes. not quite clear on what OP is intending do with them.. bit of a poorly written post (to say the least)

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                        • #13
                          That part about 'We all have to use it sometimes' is fairly bogus. If you don't get the logo through proper channels, or don't know how, or didn't leave enough time to do the run-around it takes to get them, perhaps you need to rethink your strategy. I've been doing signage 15 years and have never had to use it.

                          It sounds pretty clear that the OP is looking to make stickers using corporate logos he does not have permission to use.
                          And will probably ignore that part of the warning given at BOTW on using said logos.

                          Bear in mind a lot of those things are other people's hand traces and may not be correct or have correct colors.

                          Speaking of that, I ran across a corporate logo-police guy a little while back that says they have a logo up there that is wrong on purpose....... I couldn't follow his reasoning for doing such at thing but it did come down to infringement lawsuits somehow. Something about knowingly clicking the Agree box and willfully downloading without permission...

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                          • #14
                            Last year we were working with Walmart for a product line that had to do with a popular show on Nickelodeon. I spent days and days designing products for this line.

                            Everything had to be per Nick's specs. All images of the actors, logos, Backgrounds, patterns, ect used had to all be derived from Nick approved artwork taken from their FTP site. And if any of those graphics were altered in any way it had to be approved colors, fonts, and other BS. There was a whole handbook devoted to the rules I had to follow with my product designs.

                            The company I work for spent $1,000s to have samples made after my artwork was done. Then the buyer at Walmart ended up going with a different vendor for that particular line. (Which, to my great amusement, did not sell due to quality issues. The graphics were stuck on with stickers, and were just not as good as ours, but you get what you pay for.)

                            End of story, had the buyer chosen our products instead of going cheap, we would have had to pay for the rights to manufacture the line. Because that didn't happen, we were not ALLOWED to purchase the licensing and sell outside of Walmart.

                            Those samples are still sitting in the sample room mocking me.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dave Swimm View Post
                              I want to decal tournament boats, do I contact their marketing departments?
                              Yes.

                              Putting the decal on a tournament boat would imply a corporate endorsement.
                              Most corporations take such things seriously and don't want just anyone representing their brand--especially if it looks like some type of endorsement.

                              Also if these decals are being used to sell boats, you are implying something else entirely -such as certain joint operations-- which the corporations would like even less (because companies might already have partnerships with other companies).


                              I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss what people have been telling you. You have been given good, honest and knowledgeable advise.

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