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    Iam looking for a good wholesale printer that has cheap prices and fast turnaround. Anyone have any ideas? I have been using Gotprint. They are dirt cheap but turnaround os slow.

  • #2
    We have a saying around here, good, fast, cheap, pick any two

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    • #3
      i wanted to find all 3 in one shot. Lol. I guess what i am asking is for a better solution than gotprint.com. I am seriously debating leasing equipment to reduce production cost and lead time.

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      • #4
        I've never been a fan of online print vendors. I prefer to go to local printers so I can visit them in person if I have to.

        What are you looking to print?
        "Design is not just what it looks like and feels like. Design is how it works."
        -Steve Jobs

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        • #5
          I am mostly doing flyers, business cards, small saddle stiched booklets etc. Mostly short runs, 1000 or under. I agree about local shops being a good choice. I have a good relationship with a local shop that gives me wholesale pricing. On large runs they do very good. On short runs they are very pricey. For instance I just wrapped up a job that cost me $120 at Gotprint. The local shop would have been over $300. If I lease a printer for $250 a month I could have produced that job for around $40. The probelm with online companies is they ship directly to the client and I never see the product. Therefor I have no control over that quality. Be leasing my own equipment I could ensure a high quality product and greatly reduce production costs and lead times. Anyone care to comment on this?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Buckeyewta View Post
            I am mostly doing flyers, business cards, small saddle stiched booklets etc. Mostly short runs, 1000 or under.
            Originally posted by Buckeyewta View Post
            If I lease a printer for $250 a month...
            What kind of printer? Is it a desktop printer? Unlikely to be press quality IMO.
            Will you be leasing a folder and a trimmer and a stitcher too? Does that monthly lease include ink?
            Originally posted by Buckeyewta View Post
            Be leasing my own equipment I could ensure a high quality product and greatly reduce production costs and lead times. Anyone care to comment on this?
            Have you calculated for time? How long will it take for you to print 1000 booklets, fold, trim and bind them...? What about waste? Packing? Shipping?
            Sketching not only helps you work out good ideas, it helps you get past the bad ones.

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            • #7
              Pan, You saved me the trouble.
              Can't imagine what kind of machine you can lease for $250 a month.

              An online doesn't have to ship directly to the client. You TELL them to ship it to you. End of story.

              As Kool said, pick two.

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              • #8
                4over.com

                However you need to establish a trade account and they usually only allow established freelancers / companies to utilize their services

                I have used them many times, excellent prices, quality, and service. Haven't found anything online that can hold a candle to them.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Buckeyewta View Post
                  I am mostly doing flyers, business cards, small saddle stiched booklets etc. Mostly short runs, 1000 or under. I agree about local shops being a good choice. I have a good relationship with a local shop that gives me wholesale pricing. On large runs they do very good. On short runs they are very pricey. For instance I just wrapped up a job that cost me $120 at Gotprint. The local shop would have been over $300. If I lease a printer for $250 a month I could have produced that job for around $40. The probelm with online companies is they ship directly to the client and I never see the product. Therefor I have no control over that quality. Be leasing my own equipment I could ensure a high quality product and greatly reduce production costs and lead times. Anyone care to comment on this?
                  I pretty much did the same thing. I have a reasonably strong printing background which has helped me immensely. I highly doubt that I could sustain my business with a $250/month printer, though. Even if you can get satisfactory quality from it on text and coverstock, at the very least you'll need a folder and a trimmer. My printer costs considerably more than $250, but if I still need to outsource to local printers.

                  Then there's the whole shopping for paper headache. My last paper supplier is no longer selling to small businesses, which means finding new sources that aren't charging double what I was paying before.

                  It's worked out for us, but it isn't as easy as pushing a button and watching your printed pieces fall neatly into the hopper.

                  Janet

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by PrintDriver View Post
                    An online doesn't have to ship directly to the client. You TELL them to ship it to you. End of story.
                    My thoughts exactly.

                    When I use online printing for clients, I usually have it come to me first so I can see it before the client does and then I'll forward it on.

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                    • #11
                      I've always been very fond of 4over.com. They have multiple facilities around the country, and they do just about everything you'd ever need.

                      We used Got Print at a place I worked but we had some issues with their product. We switched to 4over and noticed it was much faster than Got Print, and we never really had any issues except for one cutting error (which they replaced).

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                      • #12
                        Go local. If you go local, you can be present to physically sign off on a proof or even for a press pass. In my experience, your local printer has a faster turnaround time than national gang-run printers.

                        I might be biased as I work for a "local" printing company. Although we still print jobs from the other side of the country.

                        We always keep samples for our job bags and send samples to the broker. The job usually goes to the client (in a plain box) unless otherwise specified.
                        It is more fun to talk with someone who doesn't use long, difficult words but rather short, easy words like "What about lunch?" Winnie the Pooh

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                        • #13
                          Depending on the client and the project at hand, we use both local printers and 4over. When color or stock are critical we will go to a local printer since we will have greater control over the end product. Some clients aren't especially picky about either, so those jobs often go to 4over. We've had very few issues with them. Good quality, it's cheap, great range of products.

                          4over is actually local to us as they have a facility 10 miles away. Most of the time we actually pick our jobs up directly from them. They also offer free delivery since we're so close, so for most of their products there's no shipping charge.
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                          • #14
                            I use partnerprinting. They are also a trade only site. I get good quality, good color, great prices and fast turnaround. They'll ship where you want. Never tried 4over, gotprint doesn't do so great on color so I won't use them.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Kool View Post
                              We have a saying around here, good, fast, cheap, pick any two
                              That's the way of the land. If anyone ever finds themselves with all three...pinch yourself haha
                              *NO ADVERTISING*

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