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  • How Do They Do This? Re: PDFs

    #1
    Hi GDF,

    I got a question regarding PDFs. A client said that his old graphic designer could make PDFs from other PDFs, and I was wondering if this is possible if they didn't have the original ID or Quark files.

    Client would send a PDF of a flyer, and a tif or jpg of his logo. They would send back a PDF of the same flyer, but with the client's logo inserted into the bottom. Both files have selectable text and came in at under 5mb.

    I can open the logo file and the PDF just fine with Photoshop. But once I insert the logo and save as a Photoshop PDF, the file size is now 25mb.

    Is it possible to edit a PDF and save it if you don't have the original layout (Quark, ID) files?

  • #2
    It is possible to some extent. I wouldn't use Photoshop to do it.
    Why would they use a tif or jpg of the logo?
    As to the file size, what do you plan to do with the PDF after you "fix" it?

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    • #3
      If you open a PDF in photoshop, it will be rasterized, so the result will always be huge.

      Simple changes like deleting an image and placing a new one can be done in Acrobat Pro.

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      • #4
        If a client sent me a pdf of a flyer and a logo file, I'd ask for a vector version of the logo and redo the flyer from scratch. I'd still be able to supply the client with a pdf of the final.

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        • #5
          I would place the pdf into an Indesign document and then place the logo on top. Indesign has great export capabilities so that you can pick what file size you want your final pdf to be.

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          • #6
            I'd edit the content in Acrobat Pro - you can use the "Edit Object" and this will open a temporary file in the appropriate program (raster images are opened photoshop, vector in Illustrator).

            I'd then swap out the logo/images for whatever the client sent.

            Saving and returning to Acrobat the images would change in the PDF.



            Placing the file in InDesign is a viable option too. I'd just delete the logo, et al items, on the PDF first, then I don't have to worry about "patching" over the original with frames or trickery.

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            • #7
              I like Kitch's answer best.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by PrintDriver View Post
                I like Kitch's answer best.
                Until it becomes a 200 page document with lots of styles and stuff

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                • #9
                  I like Buda's. Done it a million times.


                  Fine. At least a hundred.

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                  • #10
                    If you are 100% sure it's a one off fix and you won't be altering the piece in the future, I would go with Buda's method, otherwise complete recreation is the best method as after a number of "fixes" to the same document your playing with a bloated rat's nest that has the potential to explode into a flaming ball of printing issues.

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                    • #11
                      I don't like recreating stuff from scratch unless I know that it's going to be an ongoing editing process (like a quarterly sale flyer). But the method I mentioned is great for a quickie like inserting a couple of logos or changing a word or two.

                      Of course, you'll know better than us what the client's budget will bear.

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