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    #1
    Hello all, nice forum...

    What type of printer or printing technic could be used to print a 2in. x 2in. image from the computer to a 100% poly impervious material? It would be black ink onto a light yellow material. It would need to withstand up to 75 commercial washings.

    Thanks!
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    • #3
      You'd be looking for a textile/fabric screen printers.

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      • #4
        An adhesive back vinyl with solvent inks or perhaps PVC but I don;t know if they print on PVC that small.

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        • #5
          Hanks got the right idea, I would go with dye sublimation which can be printed onto a carrier media - mirror image print and then heat transferred to the fabric

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          • #6
            LOL, where did I miss the fabric?

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            • #7
              Looked at sublimation, long process.
              Will have thousands of these to produce. Each piece will have a different variation of the 2in. x 2in. image that is computer generated, so it will be one by one. The transfer needs to be very fast.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MikeHun View Post
                Hanks got the right idea, I would go with dye sublimation which can be printed onto a carrier media - mirror image print and then heat transferred to the fabric
                Looking into this more now. May be an option. Been looking for the carrier media for iron on but cant seem to locate. Is this something that can be printed from a regular laser or inkjet printer?
                Thanks

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bajaboy1 View Post
                  Looking into this more now. May be an option. Been looking for the carrier media for iron on but cant seem to locate. Is this something that can be printed from a regular laser or inkjet printer?
                  Thanks
                  If you have thousands to do, why would you do them on a desktop inkjet or laser? They won't last.
                  Thousands is something you have someone print up for you.

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                  • #10
                    dye sub is printed using a standard inkjet printer compatible with specialized inks and transfer paper. Which could end up being an expensive setup cost. dyesub requires certain temperature and pressure to optimize the print. Longevity of the print varies, exposure to sun can rapidly fade the print, what transfer paper and inks, temp and pressure used, as well as what material the print is transferred to.

                    At this moment, I can't think of any one substrate, or material that will withstand up to 75 commercial washings without it being a more permanent solution such as screen print or embroidery. Anything that is printed will fade sometimes as little as 25 washings.

                    side note: yes, it is possible to do. We have done 2,000 dyesub imprints in one day at our MFG plant with the proper equipment and workflow.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by PrintDriver View Post
                      If you have thousands to do, why would you do them on a desktop inkjet or laser? They won't last.
                      Thousands is something you have someone print up for you.
                      That is an option i suppose.
                      Would this process hold up to the number of washings i referred to above on this impervious fabric?

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                      • #12
                        Just did a little reading on dyesub method. If I'm reading correct, it prints directly to the material?
                        And it also won't print black?
                        Last edited by bajaboy1; 11-28-2012, 02:10 AM.

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                        • #13
                          It sort of prints black. The actual result is more of a dark charcoal - near black on fabric. The transfer is a bit translucent as it doesn't sit on top of the fabric, but fuses to the fabric itself. All depends on the paper, quality of ink, method of transfer, and material. Some work better than others.

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                          • #14
                            Interesting. Seems as though it would hold up to washings as i read it has a coating also over it?. Also since it uses heat to transfer, would it melt my material?

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                            • #15
                              There is no coating over the transfer - the process causes the ink to gas from the transfer paper then gas vapor fuses to the material with heat and pressure. And the poly could melt depending on it's makeup. And from experience 25 washings in a user's machine, not commercial, is about right before you notice it start to fade. It will never last 75 washings in a commercial cleaner.

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