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  • RIT study on “print ready” files -- your input is welcome

    I’m in the process of researching the impact of some of the changes in premedia production relative to the steady shift of image editing, color mgmt., etc. further and further upstream. For the forum at large, my question is:
    As designers, are the majority of files you submit as “print ready” regarded as print ready by the print service providers that receive them? For those that are not, what types of corrective actions do you they most commonly call for (and/or charge for) downstream prior to print production?


    The research I’m working on is part of a larger study comparing imaging/color mgmt. standard operating procedures (SOPs) and communication streams between designers, agencies, publishers and print service providers. As part of that study, I’m also conducting a number of case studies and on-site work to validate findings. As many of you work with multiple phases of the design process, any insight you can provide from your experience would be of great value to this study.

    If you are willing to discuss some of your experiences, successes and frustrations related to preproduction communications and color issues in more depth, please drop me a line directly in the next few days (my contact info is below). Unless a participant specifies otherwise, all material collected for the study will be regarded as confidential, all participants anonymous and companies that agree to provide information will be identified only categorically by company size and primary services provided. And, as you would suspect, all participants will receive draft copies of the report for review prior to its final release to the public.

    The final report produced will be published as a monograph from our Print Industry Center (http://print.rit.edu) and available free to the public by early next year. Copies of the report can be obtained from the PIC website and, for those of you looking for a little more, you are welcome to hit me up at any point for additional information about the research as well as any information on any related work we are doing here at RIT.

    I appreciate your patience (this message is a bit longer than I had hoped) and look forward to hearing from some of you soon.

    Best regards,
    -Michael

    Michael Riordan
    Assistant Professor, Color Imaging & Publishing
    School of Print Media
    Rochester Institute of Technology
    p: 585.475.4753 f: 585.475.5336 e: michael.riordan@rit.edu
    www.rit.edu/printmedia

  • #2
    You should ask riskself and jimking, they are our vocal prepress men who frequent our site with their presence.
    Less be more.

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    • #3
      bump?
      Less be more.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by michael_riordan
        As designers, are the majority of files you submit as “print ready” regarded as print ready by the print service providers that receive them? For those that are not, what types of corrective actions do you they most commonly call for (and/or charge for) downstream prior to print production?
        Yes. After working in prepress for a time, I learned to always consult my printer before submitting any files to make sure that they fit the particular printer's specs.



        Originally posted by michael_riordan
        If you are willing to discuss some of your experiences, successes and frustrations related to preproduction communications and color issues in more depth, please drop me a line directly in the next few days p: 585.475.4753 f: 585.475.5336 e: michael.riordan@rit.edu
        www.rit.edu/printmedia
        Kool? PD? jimking? rickself? Any takers?
        Last edited by morea; 08-18-2005, 05:52 PM.
        "It's never too late to be who you might have been." - George Eliot

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        • #5
          Yes frustrations, ummm color management--ya mmm sure.
          WYSIWYG

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          • #6
            Hm? I felt a "bump".

            I'd love to comment but I'm in the middle of a 2 color job that has 6 images in rgb, 4 in index, and 10 scans in 16bit grayscale. Plus it's in Quark 6.

            Geez, who'd I piss off last night?

            And I'm, for once, dead serious. Give me a chance to get back after this nightmare. This job is from a major University in the region who should have known better.

            Rick
            People tell me "Have a Good One!' Hell, I already have a good one, I just need a BIGGER one! - George Carlin

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rickself
              I'd love to comment but I'm in the middle of a 2 color job that has 6 images in rgb, 4 in index, and 10 scans in 16bit grayscale. Plus it's in Quark 6.
              ick,
              Less be more.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rickself
                Hm? I felt a "bump".

                I'd love to comment but I'm in the middle of a 2 color job that has 6 images in rgb, 4 in index, and 10 scans in 16bit grayscale. Plus it's in Quark 6.

                Geez, who'd I piss off last night?

                And I'm, for once, dead serious. Give me a chance to get back after this nightmare. This job is from a major University in the region who should have known better.

                Rick
                Ah but they are students.
                WYSIWYG

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                • #9
                  Michael

                  >>As designers, are the majority of files you submit as “print ready” regarded as print ready by the print service providers that receive them?<<

                  I think asking designers is the wrong way to go about this. All designers like to believe their files are print-ready when they are sent to the printer, and wouldn't like to admit they can get anything wrong. Or don't even KNOW they are doing something wrong. Some are, some aren't, and after working for a year in prepress in a printshop, I know a little about the sort of problems that have to be fixed for those designers who don't know what they are doing.

                  They are: wrong colour mode (RGB instead of CMYK) or more commonly, a mixture of colour modes; retention of spot colours in process colour jobs; resizing/cropping images within the layout program - OK initially but not for the final file; leaving junk out on the pasteboard; forgetting to package fonts; not converting text in vector images to outlines; forgetting to include linked images; failing to remove unused colours; using inappropriate image formats; using images with too low resolution. This is a list I can come up with off the top of my head. There's probably plenty of others I have forgotten, but the list above is the most common.

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                  • #10
                    As a preproduction specialist, insufficient DPI is the biggest frustration, as well as poor scans and fonts not outlined.

                    As a designer, I have a terrible time following the varying cutting margins different printers ask for (in full color marketing).
                    IM me sometime! I promise I won't abbrev. any words under fourteen letters long.

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                    • #11
                      I'm noticing that this post keeps getting answered when in fact the author of the thread needed a response 1. directly (ie to the email address he posted) and 2. "within the next few days" of 8/17. If he'd been serious, he'd have given himself a little more time to do an industry survey...
                      LOL

                      Mor, I almost replied by email but didn't have the time at the time. Has anyone checked how the information turned out by going to the RIT site?

                      edit: The monograph hasn't been posted yet.
                      Last edited by PrintDriver; 09-11-2005, 02:39 PM.

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