why not just place it in Indesign and print it from there? that does color seps.

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I've heard of Indesign, but I don't have it. I know how to print out the color seps in Photoshop, but is that recommended?? Also, for some reason when I print the girl out of Photoshop, she has too much red. When I print it out of Illustrator, she prints out perfect. It's weird, which is why I kind of wanted to try and print the seps out of Illustrator, but I can't figure out how. Any help would be appreciated!
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Make sure your image is in CMYK mode.
You can place the file in Illustrator as a .tif or a .eps.
In Illus CS go to your print menu. In that menu, on the left hand side choose 'output'
Under output - to the right it will say 'Mode'...It will probobly be defaulted to composite but you want to change that to 'seperations'.

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Thank you very much D-Zine, but for some reason the Composite part is greyed out. It won't let me get into that selection. My file I placed is cmyk, and my Illustrator document is cmyk. What is wrong?? Thanx!
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I'm just curious, why do you want separations? Why do you want to place it in Illustrator if it's a PS file. What is the final result you are looking for?

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Well, I doing a 4 color cmyk t-shirt. I need to do the separations for the printer to save a lot of money. I can easily do the separations in Photoshop, but for some reason when I print the image out in full color, it has a red tone on it. It prints out with way too much red. When I print the image out in full color from Illustrator, it looks like it should. All the colors are as they look on the screen. In Photoshop, it looks fine on the screen, but prints out too red. So I wanted to do the separations in Illustrator, hoping that they will come out correct like when I print in full color.

I may be totally wrong about this, and maybe the Photoshop separations will be fine. I don't know. But the separations box in output in Illustrator is greyed out. It won't even let me get into that option. Anybody have help? Thanx!
-WizeGuyzDezignz

WGD, go to the adobe website and download acrobat reader 6, it's free. Install this on your machine, and then when you go to print in illustrator, change your printer to acrobat and you will now be able to select separations. It will print them to a file, but you'll still be able to check it's only CMYK and only 4 plates etc. other than that, all I can suggest is that you need a postscript printer, or RIP software in order to print separations.

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Do you access to earlier versions of Illus.? If so you could export the file as a Illustrator Legacy eps file and save it as a earlier version of Illus.

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I know I am behind the times in software versions, using AI 8 and PS 6, and I am not sure how much has been added, but when I was being introduced to programs, I was taught that Illustrator is a drawing and art generation program, not a publishing program. I don’t ever recall seeing the ‘print’ options that, say Quark has, that deal with screen angles (a 4/c process concern in the formation of the rosette of color dots), line per inch halftone resolution, dot gain, and such things. Realize that an inkjet, though 4/c is NOT the same as four color process. If you are INKJET printing, you do not need separations, just print the full color version on the iron on or transfer. If I print the same image from Illustrator and from Quark, I can reproduce the Quark one better on a copier because the dot patterns are devised for reproduction, where as the Illustrator print will not have as clean a dot pattern. It may look better as a final ‘art’ print, but won’t be as reproducible. In the days of graphics cameras, one would make a different halftone exposure for ‘copydot’ printing, via duplicator or ‘Xerox’ then they would for burning plates form negs.

I guess one cold think of it as Illustrator has colors. It doesn’t know how it makes them, it just has them. PhotoShop, Quark, or InDesign provide production methods, i.e. digital printing, large format inkjet, or negs and plates, HOW to make those colors.

At least that’s my take.

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