No. We use a service called FindPrinters.com. It's a place where buyers place a quote and multiple printers bid on them. There are plenty of sites that do this and I am looking to join another. Buyers do NOT pay.
I've found several freelance designers on that site. And been happy with most. As designers I thought you might appreciate sites like that. If you know any better ones I'd be interested. Since I am new to this site I do not know all the do's & don't. However, I do get the feeling that I am not allowed to post links. Is that so?
That's a pretty narrow point of view. There is nothing wrong with outsourcing as long as you do your homework. That's like saying you wouldn't recommend hiring a designer I met in this forum because they gave me a good price. A quote service is merely a tool. And a poor carpenter doesn't blame his tools.
I didn't say I don't outsource. I actually do over 80% of my work outsourced.
That's like saying you wouldn't recommend hiring a designer I met in this forum because they gave me a good price.
But that's what I am saying.
It takes more than a rock-bottom price for me to choose a vendor. The same as you wouldn't hire a designer based on price. If a GD's book and references are no good, it's a waste of money. Same with a printer. If references, samples, color match, customer service, project turnaround and quality don't meet my (rather high) expectations, "lowest price available" means squat.
Large format stuff is too expensive to take a flyer on an unknown. There's a long trial period of doing 'little jobs' before someone gets awarded our big ones.
That's interesting. I looked at my earlier posts to see where I said I take the cheapest bid or rock-bottom price and I could not find it.
What you have done is assumed that since I use an online quote service that it is ONLY about price. That is not correct nor is that fair. Obivously not having used one yourself, you have jumped to conculsions.
This is all about business and a good business person uses the tools available to them. These type of sites are good for me and even better for my clients.
I lot of good printers avoid such sites. If I'm not mistaking it sounds like reverse bidding. It maybe good for you Bob but it hurts printers. I can only say what I've heard. Printers in destress often go to these sites and in the long run end up hurting themselves and other printers. There are folks who go after the lowest bid everytime, jumping from printer to printer. To me if you do simple work it may pan out but if you do complex work my hunch would be that person will get and does get burned often going this route for obvious reasons. Who knows what the capibilities are of these printers who get involved in reverse bidding.
AroundTheFur, read PrintDriver's response, do what he suggests re: defining your hypothetical company, then sit down with paper and pencil and sketch 100 or so ideas. Do not jump onto the computer each...