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  • Wanting some harsh critisism !!! :)

    I am 15 and have started doing this for a bit of fun and I must say its a better job than working at maccas.

    I use photoshop (as its all I know how to use) and my work is very simple but it has been quite a hit in the equestrian industry and small buisinesses.

    I want some opinions, critique, nows your chance!!!


  • #2
    Hi FearlessDesigns and welcome to GDF.

    We ask all new members to read the threads posted HERE and HERE. They will give you all the info you need on how the forum runs, the rules and regulations, frequently discussed topics as well as clearing up any baffling inside jokes.

    While most posters here are professionals, we have students join us from time to time wishing to learn more about design. You'll learn a lot from these forums if you are willing to put in the work.

    Flicking through your facebook portfolio, it is clear that you don't know many of the basics of logo design. Please read up on colour theory, typography, composition as well as the technical aspects of logo design. None of the logos you have presented are working. But we all have to start somewhere. Start with some basic theory.

    p.s. Learn how to spell business and criticism.
    It is more fun to talk with someone who doesn't use long, difficult words but rather short, easy words like "What about lunch?" Winnie the Pooh


    • #3
      Just to add...

      Photoshop is for - well photos - the clue really is in the title.

      Where photoshop has some basic tools for creating vector objects - it really isn't designed for designing logos.

      Illustrator is the software that is best suited to creating logos.

      I know you say you only know how to use Photoshop - but still that is not good enough reason.

      Logos need to be robust, be scalable from business card size to billboard size without losing quality.

      With Photoshop - you have pixels not vector; that means that if you scale the image it will lose quality. Vectors behave much differently, they are mathematical lines, not pixels. With lines created using maths - it really is as simple as multiplying the equation (the computer does this) to create it at a larger size. Or dividing the mathematical equations to make the vectors smaller.

      Pixels do not behave this way. That's basically how photoshop works - with pixels, and remember the word PIXELS is a combination of two words, PIX and ELements. Where "PIX" is short for Picture.

      Where it's nice you can do things in Photoshop - it's really a disservice to create logos in Photoshop.

      Logos should also come in different versions; from colour ranges, single colour, reversed out, CMYK, RGB; to formats for Printing (vector), Screen (jpg, png (w/trans)) - and a few other specialist formats, like embroidery, or screen printing, etc.

      A logo designer should know these things, inside out, back to front and upside down. When the word LOGO is mentioned, all these things should formulate into one thought. Not an after-thought.

      You have got a lot to learn. But learn the right way, with the right software for starters. Get some books on logo design, design theory, colour theory, etc.

      Please stop using Photoshop to create logos. I've said it before, but I really wish they had called Illustrator "Logoshop!".

      "May your hats fly as high as your dreams"Michael Scott


      • #4
        Not to mention, at 15, you are too young to be entering into business contracts.


        • #5
          Hi Fearless, welcome!

          First of all, how many of those logos did you start from scratch? I can tell that some of that imagery was found imagery, and not imagery you created yourself.

          That alone can get you into trouble. If you want to get into logo design, like which has already been mentioned, you need to get Adobe Illustrator and learn how to use it.

          Photoshop has never, and will never be known for creating Logos. I'd also advise purchasing Graphic Design books and learn some of the fundamental rules and guidelines for practicing design. It's very easy to slap a few images together and make it look slick, than providing a thought provoking, conceptualized logo.

          Keep at it though, I wasn't creating logos at 15


          • #6
            Originally posted by PrintDriver View Post
            Not to mention, at 15, you are too young to be entering into business contracts.
            Here, in Ireland, you can work at 15 as long as the work contract is co-signed by the guardians.

            I'm not sure how that works for freelance contracts though.

            "May your hats fly as high as your dreams"Michael Scott


            • #7
              >>Wanting some harsh critisism !!!<<
              I'm not sure where you're from, but around here, it's illegal to be married at 15.


              • #8
                You're rubbish, but if you like it, study it. Then you won't be rubbish anymore.


                • #9
                  Apparently they are from Australia - if their email address on Facebook is to be believed.

                  "May your hats fly as high as your dreams"Michael Scott


                  • #10
                    Well, you wanted harsh, so here goes...

                    Your work looks on par with anyone else who has a copy of Photoshop and thinks they are a designer. They don't look professional at all, and by using Photoshop you are setting yourself (and your clients) up for many potential headaches.

                    If you really want to be a designer, go to school, learn proper techniques, buy the proper hardware/software, and then work for several years before trying to start a business.


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by roth
                      you're rubbish, but if you like it, study it. Then you won't be rubbish anymore.

                      Beautiful Designs and Logos suitable for websites, farm or equestrian centres and buisinesses. Email: -- NOW!!
                      I think not.

                      It's people like you who give a bad name to this industry.
                      Last edited by tZ; 04-02-2012, 12:59 PM.


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by fearlessdesigns View Post
                        I am 15 and have started doing this for a bit of fun and I must say its a better job than working at maccas.
                        I really encourage you to take down the information you have on your facebook page. Promoting yourself as a Graphic Designer when you really aren't, will only come and bite you in the ass in the long term (as I learned myself the hard way). And I'm not necessarily talking about making money out of it. Even doing free stuff for friends without proper background knowledge, can harm your reputation.
                        We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.


                        • #13
                          I'm probably repeating what everyone else has said, but knowing how to work photoshop/illustrator/indesign, whatever software you use, DOES NOT automatically make you a designer by any means. i'm so sick of people "coming into" the field thinking they are designers JUST because they can use the software as good as us. I'll be getting my associates in eleven months and there is still a BUTT LOAD that I don't know.

                          your 15 yrs old, don't try starting a business just yet. yes i know what I told you in my other comment, and i still stand by that, but right now finish out middle/high school, and then go to college for Graphic Design. In the mean time pick up as many books as you can about design, typography, printing and pre-press, color theory, web design, anything you can find. If your this interested in it, then theres nothing wrong with studying before you get in college. but until then, your not a designer. your a student.

                          good luck.






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