Review my third logo try

**PanToshi** · 11-18-2012, 05:27 PM

Hi RomProject and welcome to GDF!

Do you have any education in graphic design? In the US, entry-level requires a 4-year degree, 2 years real-world experience and an outstanding portfolio or work. Tough economic times have lead to more designers competing for fewer jobs, so the potential employer can demand what they see fit for their business. What is the job market like in your area?

When you get settled, we ask that all new members take a few minutes to read through important threads here and here. These will explain our rules, answer frequently asked questions and explain some of the long running jokes you'll run into.

Enjoy your stay.

PS: FYI: Photoshop is not for logo creation. You might find this thread useful.

RomProject · 11-18-2012, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by PanToshi View Post

Hi RomProject and welcome to GDF!

Do you have any education in graphic design? In the US, entry-level requires a 4-year degree, 2 years real-world experience and an outstanding portfolio or work. Tough economic times have lead to more designers competing for fewer jobs, so the potential employer can demand what they see fit for their business. What is the job market like in your area?

When you get settled, we ask that all new members take a few minutes to read through important threads here and here. These will explain our rules, answer frequently asked questions and explain some of the long running jokes you'll run into.

Enjoy your stay.

PS: FYI: Photoshop is not for logo creation. You might find this thread useful.

i have read red the rules and i only know using photoshop at the moment,
at the moment i am not touching illustrator. no degree...
i am always looking n others graphic designers work and try to understand it, now i just want you guys to tell me how bad this logo is, if possible rating it from 1 to 10, i personally will give it a 2.
please give me some advice, i am really motivated, but im not sure if this is for me, so somebody tell me if i should continue or quit. only need some advice from a professional to quit, to continue, to do that or this, help!
thanks.

Jahbuzzz · 11-18-2012, 05:55 PM

Thats a bit like putting a plaster on a knee and asking if you applied it well and should you study for 7 years to become a doctor. You must decide if this profession is for you and either go for it or now - only you can decide.

And as for your logo - for a first attempt/novice its not at all bad. You will however need to learn some vector based program like illustrator. If you want to be a designer there is no avoiding that I'm afraid .... Good luck!

**Buda** · 11-19-2012, 01:02 AM

Design isn't random stabbing in the dark until something pretty emerges.

Design is much, much more than sigs made in Photoshop. You might find the advice here harsh, but it's the knowledge of real world experience.

23 years old isn't old. In fact, many of my classmates at university were over 30. If you are motivated and have even a little artistic talent, then get yourself into a reputable design school (one that requires a portfolio submission process) and grab yourself an education.

Roth · 11-19-2012, 04:12 AM

You know when the Russians, instead of training cosmonauts and then seeing if they were able to withstand the rigours of space travel, like the American method, cleverly put them in a centrifuge to test their resistance beforehand?

Well, this is nothing like that.

So just follow Buda's advice.

<b> · 11-19-2012, 06:28 AM

I'm just going to have to agree with what the others have written.

Without the education and the design and production knowledge that comes with it, you'll likely go nowhere in this field. As mentioned, for someone with little to no training, your logo shows that you're someone with potential, so if you're at all inclined to enroll in a good 4-year design program, I'd really encourage you to do it.

If you're unable or unwilling to do that, I'd suggest moving into some other line of work with more convenient entry requirements. Becoming a professional designer, takes time, money, lots of hard work and, most important, dedication.

kemingMatters · 11-19-2012, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by RomProject View Post

i have read red the rules and i only know using photoshop at the moment,
at the moment i am not touching illustrator. no degree...
i am always looking n others graphic designers work and try to understand it, now i just want you guys to tell me how bad this logo is, if possible rating it from 1 to 10, i personally will give it a 2.
please give me some advice, i am really motivated, but im not sure if this is for me, so somebody tell me if i should continue or quit. only need some advice from a professional to quit, to continue, to do that or this, help!
thanks.

This is a bit cart before the horse, not using illustrator (or vector software) to create a logo because you only know how to use photoshop is like using a hammer to drive in screws because you don't know how to operate a screwdriver...

Designing a great logo is probably one of the most difficult areas of design. You are taking abstract ideas/ideals of a company and simplifying them in a manner that communicates those ideas/ideals the same way to everyone.

RomProject · 11-19-2012, 09:51 PM

thank you guys for your suggestions, but i already knew that ill need a degree and alot of work. thats not new to me, but thanks for your feedback.
ill start bashing illustrator rightaway! if there are more tips you can throw on me, ill thank you

crowdedstudios · 11-19-2012, 10:49 PM

I'd say, lose the icon with the name. If you're really stuck on using it, develop the "R" icon for an app (you should get around to designing an app to add to the portfolio... even if you're not going to program it.) show your potential client that you understand "communication design" no matter what the platform is.

Don't mix up your fonts. Find a really nice and simple font that really grabs what your design style is about. If you're labeling a name (like yours), make it simple and easy to read.

mock up your logo with 20 other logos from different companies and see how it fares. An example would be to imagine that you are a media partner for an event, and your logo will be placed with all of the other contributors. Will your logo stand out and be memorable? If it does, chances are you will be able to create something that will stand out for your future clients.

crowdedstudios · 11-19-2012, 10:56 PM

Originally posted by RomProject View Post

thank you guys for your suggestions, but i already knew that ill need a degree and alot of work. thats not new to me, but thanks for your feedback.
ill start bashing illustrator rightaway! if there are more tips you can throw on me, ill thank you

One thing, you actually don't really "NEED" a degree to get a design job. Though it helps a bit. You "NEED" to have the hunger, drive, talent, endurance and luck to make it as a full-time commercial artist. More simply put, look at design as a lifestyle, not a job.

troop1 · 11-19-2012, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by RomProject View Post

thank you guys for your suggestions, but i already knew that ill need a degree and alot of work. thats not new to me, but thanks for your feedback.
ill start bashing illustrator rightaway! if there are more tips you can throw on me, ill thank you

Don't go bashing illustrator. What you need to do is go and bash some books!

Nothing in illustrator is going to help you find answers to these essential question you need to ask, and critically, satisfy.

Cosmo · 11-20-2012, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by crowdedstudios View Post

One thing, you actually don't really "NEED" a degree to get a design job. Though it helps a bit. You "NEED" to have the hunger, drive, talent, endurance and luck to make it as a full-time commercial artist. More simply put, look at design as a lifestyle, not a job.

True, you don't NEED a degree to do a job.

You do NEED a degree to get the interview in the first place.

skribe · 11-20-2012, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by Cosmo View Post

True, you don't NEED a degree to do a job.

You do NEED a degree to get the interview in the first place.

I didn't. I had a degree in a totally different and unrelated field. So I walked in with a portfolio of things I made on my own, asked to see the boss, told him, "This is the kind of place I've always wanted to work. Hire me and you won't regret it." He hired me on the spot, without looking at my portfolio. Lucky brake maybe. Confidence says a lot. The work experience helped me move up the ladder. That was 20 years ago. By the way my degree did not go to waste. I now spend most of my time in Europe working for a charity, and do freelance on the side.

kemingMatters · 11-20-2012, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by skribe View Post

I didn't. I had a degree in a totally different and unrelated field. So I walked in with a portfolio of things I made on my own, asked to see the boss, told him, "This is the kind of place I've always wanted to work. Hire me and you won't regret it." He hired me on the spot, without looking at my portfolio. Lucky brake maybe. Confidence says a lot. The work experience helped me move up the ladder. That was 20 years ago. By the way my degree did not go to waste. I now spend most of my time in Europe working for a charity, and do freelance on the side.

20 years ago you could do that just about anywhere. Now you have to have, at the least, a degree in a related field to get past HR or the programmes some places use to process resumés quickly.

You might get by at a small shop, but without a degree you are seriously handicapping your chances at a job and your earning potential.

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