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    Im currently doing a project in university, and have been asked to find out which programme people use (company wise) when designing a magazine.
    Design is the wrong word.. it's more to create page layout, do you use InDesign, or stick to the good old Quark, or are there any other similar programs out there that you find better...

    It's more of a poll than a Thread, but i wanted to hear people's opinions on the subject aswell as their choice of program..
    Thankooooo
    Im a =unique individual=
    But then again... Aren't we all?

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    ID for me.

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    1. An American "nick" name for me to use on the GDF.
    2. Designer, Developer, Carpenter, Painter, Sexy... just plain sexy.
    3. One that does not like green eggs and ham. Seriously, I have very strict breakfast rules.
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    • #3
      Why? Is it cheaper, or is it easy to use if you've already mingled with Adobe's Programs before?
      Im a =unique individual=
      But then again... Aren't we all?

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      • #4
        We used to use Quark at work all the time, but within the last 6 month we have started to use InDesign more regularly. And as of Jan 2009 we are using InDesign exclusively. Why? Cost... Quark x 30 designers = to much $. Plus InDesign integrates with the other Adobe products so well. Color profile matching, drag and drop from Bridge... It will just work out better for us in the long run.
        Professional Pixel Pusher Designing the world around you. | Working daily to reach 10,000 hours of practice.

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        • #5
          Most of the people using Quark now have a legacy of files they have to maintain or have clients that have Quark file submission requirements. But some designers simply prefer Quark.
          Some prefer InDesign.
          I print. I use both.

          For your next assignment,
          find out what a new non-upgrade of Quark costs.
          What do you get for that money.
          Now check the new non-upgrade cost of Adobe CS4 Design Premium (what a page layout person would use).
          What do you get for that money?
          Designers can do that math.
          <dodging bricks>
          Last edited by PrintDriver; 12-02-2008, 07:13 PM.

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          • #6
            So, in a nutshell, the world's gone Adobe crazy??
            Im a =unique individual=
            But then again... Aren't we all?

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            • #7
              As for learning Quark in order to be 'serious about design', there's serious as in someone's biased leaning that is being forced on you, and there is serious as in being well rounded. If you know InDesign and have at least been exposed to Quark, they are not all that different. If you are good at InDesign, within a week you'll be good at Quark.

              But a note to the wise, Quark has print issues. It has transparency issues. It has native PDF issues. Those are the things your teachers need to be teaching you to avoid, use properly and the workarounds you may need to know.

              On the other hand, InDesign can be used to create a totally unprintable file too. Very easily.

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              • #8
                The world has not gone Adobe Crazy. Quark dozed off. Adobe bought Macromedia. Adobe has created a monopoly while Quark was pissing off its customer base in various ways and putting out a couple of crazy unstable versions that drove printers to tears.

                Again, I'm not saying InD is any better, in the wrong hands, but that's true of any software.
                Last edited by PrintDriver; 12-02-2008, 07:24 PM.

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                • #9
                  Haha! Honestly, ive learnt more by reading around these forums, that 3 years of study! education system sucks!
                  Im a =unique individual=
                  But then again... Aren't we all?

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                  • #10
                    than* 3 years study.
                    As for the adobe vs quark argument, it all sounds pretty straight forward, and yet nothing is, there's always drawbacks to everything. I suppose its good to know and be able to use both, but at the end of the day, isn't it who you're working for that has the final say ?
                    Im a =unique individual=
                    But then again... Aren't we all?

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                    • #11
                      The QvID debate is beaten to death. Don't even bring it up.

                      Yes, it does depend on who you work for. Whether you work in house or freelance.

                      What do you do if you are a freelancer and the client needs a file sent to a publisher in native Quark only. No PDF. What do you do if you only have InDesign? Or vice-versa. It would probably be an odd occurrence these days I'm sure... It seems that mostly lately the designer gets to choose the software they use and it's the printers that pick up the pieces.
                      <sigh>

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                      • #12
                        Going off topic slightly though!.. lol

                        People Quark or ID.. Or other. please state!

                        xx Thank you lovely people!
                        Im a =unique individual=
                        But then again... Aren't we all?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by PrintDriver View Post
                          The world has not gone Adobe Crazy. Quark dozed off. Adobe bought Macromedia. Adobe has created a monopoly while Quark was pissing off its customer base in various ways and putting out a couple of crazy unstable versions that drove printers to tears.

                          Again, I'm not saying InD is any better, in the wrong hands, but that's true of any software.
                          Amen, but I will go so far as to say that I find ID more intuitive to use ie. duplicating or outlining fonts and the color palette is a dream compared to Quark. Quark 4.1 was the last great Quark incarnation and it was the last one I bought. I will be buying CS4.

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                          • #14
                            For most of my design work, whether magazine, ad, flyer, web work-- whatever; the program I rely most on is the illustration program I attended at Sheridan College in Ontario, from 1980-83. Yes, it was expensive, but it taught me design fundamentals, typography, print production, some art history, drawing and painting, and how to think visually. Best of all, this program is platform and media independent and as a bonus, it came with a life-long self-upgrade policy.

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                            • #15
                              and as for me, indesign is a lot more easier to handle than quark. maybe because i never liked quark, so we didn't really "blend". we hate each other.
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