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Old 04-30-2009, 04:32 PM   #1
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Question adding bleed in Photoshop? Desiging my leaflets

Im trying to design my own business cards and leaflets so i can print them more cheaply. I understand that you need to create your designs in certain printing resolutions and add something called bleed? Ive bought a copy of Adobe photoshop but cant find any option for adding bleed.
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Old 04-30-2009, 04:41 PM   #2
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Bleed.

Just make your canvas larger (document size) to add bleed. There is no special check box of thing to click to 'get it". You have to create it manually.
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Old 04-30-2009, 04:42 PM   #3
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Hey, usually most printers require you to add a 3mm bleed to business cards and leaflets before printing. So if your designing an A5 leaflet which is 148x210mm, your finished design to the printers needs to be 156x216mm.

If your using photoshop, you can add this by just making your canvas size 6mm higher and wider. Stretch any images and backgrounds to the end of the border and bear in mind that all this will be cut off.

The bleed on your leaflet gives the cutter some room for error (most leaflets will be printed litho on huge sheets of paper and need to be cut out afterwards). The paper itself can expand or contract, the cropping machine could setup wrong or the person working on the leaflet could make a mistake. There are a lot of factors that could go wrong with the cropping, if you wouldn't be using bleed the images wouldn't be neatly aligned with the side of your printed document
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Old 04-30-2009, 04:43 PM   #4
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We won't discuss the uh... inappropriateness of doing text flyers in Photoshop will we.

Photoshop is not a layout program.
You make the canvas larger in PS under Image Size.
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Old 04-30-2009, 05:55 PM   #5
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Well the chutzpah of Photoshop for page layout has been well discussed.

But if you keep all the text and all the vector stuff as text and vectors on their own layers and save it as a PDF it will print out just fine with all vectors in task.

If you make it a PSD file you can edit the text later on and vectors, but it will output as raster (bitmapped/pixelated text etc.)

EPS can output both vector and raster, but once you open it again in Photoshop the file is rasterised immediately.

So in short - you can design a flyer in photoshop and have it print just fine if you save it as a PDF - but it's highly not recommended unless you're super super experienced in this dark art.

For the record I have never done this.

You're best bet is to use InDesign or Quark, or the free Scribus which isn't as good as the other two alternatives.

The thing though is that printers that you and I have at home have a native resolution output of about 150 dpi to 200 dpi (correct me if I need correcting )

Whereas a professional printers print images at 300 dpi (appox.)

As well as that professional printers and designers will design to a specific standard, for example A4 size or B5 or DL, and the item is printed on oversized paper, the excess is then trimmed away to make the exact size you need.

With home printers you won't get exactly the size you're looking for because they don't print to the edge of the paper. So BLEED wouldn't work anyway.

You'd need to design to smaller than the finished size you want, then trim it further down again.

And if you don't have a professional guilotine (I hate typing that word) then you're going to get different sizes when trimmed and possibly very poor trimming and it won't look professional.


You can do it at your own peril. But you'd be far better pleased letting the pros do what they do.

You wouldn't enter a dance competion if you couldn't dance, you wouldn't strip an engine if you weren't a mechanic, you wouldn't drive a car without a licence.

So why would you design your own flyers if you (ok I can't finish that sentence )


Best of luck with it though.
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