Pay for it and bill the client.
How else do you stay in business.
LOL RKK. Love it!
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If client make the issue that’s he is not going to pay for the font, since it was not decided on original payment.
They don’t pay they don’t get.
By doing this, there is the chance of losing client.
And?
Next time build in the pricing properly .
Lesson learned
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If they go to McDonalds ask for a Big Mac Meal they pay for that. If they want an ice cream sundae they pay for it.
If they want a specific font they pay for it.
If they don’t want to then other fonts need to be considered.
If they go they go they go. Good riddance.
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Like how? Can you provide the example? As how would I know that font is going to be easily available on internet or not?
Are we still talking about your original logo redraw project or graphic design in general?
If all you’re doing is redrawing the logo, yes, you can redraw the letters. You don’t need to convert anything into an installable font, which would take much, much longer. The logo you posted contains only five different letters. It might take 15 or 20 minutes to redraw them in Illustrator.
I don’t commit to doing a job for a specific price until I know what it involves. In your example, I wouldn’t agree to redraw a logo without first seeing it and thinking it through. If there are unanswered questions, I would make it clear to the client that there might be additional expenses, such as font or stock image purchases.
Even so, sometimes something unexpected arises, and if it’s my fault, I’ll eat the extra expense. However, I try my best to avoid that before accepting the job.
For the logo you showed us here, I’d just redraw the letters and be done with it.
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The font in question is $15…
Question to client - ‘Would you like to buy the font for $15 or I can spend an hour recreating it and it costs $XX… ?’
I don’t get the problem. All work costs something.
If you decided to do the logo for a price then stick to it - redraw the letters as @Just-B says.
But if you search the font on the internet there’s places you can download it for free.
My question to the client would be ‘Would you like to save money by purchasing the font for $15 - cos it will take me x amount of time and that adds up to over $15?’
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Are we still talking about your original logo redraw project or graphic design in general?
We were talking about Original Logo, I have found the letters on different fonts which I used and provide the logo to the client.
I don’t commit to doing a job for a specific price until I know what it involves. In your example, I wouldn’t agree to redraw a logo without first seeing it and thinking it through. If there are unanswered questions, I would make it clear to the client that there might be additional expenses, such as font or stock image purchases.
I see, thanks for this advice.
Question to client - ‘Would you like to buy the font for $15 or I can spend an hour recreating it and it costs $XX… ?’
The client want the font not the shapes and the client was not willing to pay for the font. So, I have found the letter on different fonts which I have used, so job is done. But what if I don’t found the fonts on internet in that case what I would have to do?
Redraw them.
And in future analyse the task and emphasise additional costs that may come up.
It’s a reason it’s called an ‘Estimate’
That’s all I send - with a message that it is an estimate and additional costs may apply depending.
You don’t send a final price - ever.
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What was your budget for the project? All of the previous questions and comments aside, a proper budget for a logo should allow you to easily absorb $15 into the cost of the job.
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I wouldn’t. Slippery slope.
It’s 15 quid if they don’t what to pay it then I’d let the job go.
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Redraw them.
The client want the font, not the shapes.
Yeah, it does, but I have to pay from my own pocket. For which I ask if this type of additional cost appear should we ask the client, or should we pay from our own pocket?
If your client wants the font they have to buy it. If you buy it, the license is in your name.
Most EULAs don’t allow you pass it along.
I wouldn’t argue. Just say “sorry, buy it” and be done with it. Most clients worth keeping would understand that.
You’ve spent more billable time on here arguing with us than the font, or the client, is worth.
Yes, I don’t worry too much about anything under $40 on otherwise well-paying jobs for good clients. I usually build enough wiggle room into quotes to cover unexpected one-off purchases without annoying clients over unplanned nickel-and-dime expenses.
As a solo designer, I don’t run a rigid business with 15-minute increment timesheets and tight budgets, as we did at many of the agencies where I’ve worked. I prefer to keep things a bit more fluid rather than spend time and money hassling with the small details of whether or not I made or lost an extra $50 on a $5000 job. It seems to average out.
Of course, if I were taking on $100 projects from new clients or crowdsourcing, I’d need to run a much tighter ship since unplanned $15 expenses would be a much higher percentage of the profit.
However, there are some small things that require more attention. As PrintDriver mentioned, font and stock art licenses can’t typically be transferred, so clients need to buy them themselves unless they’re OK with not receiving the fonts or stock art files.
Well, the client I have met, they just ask question whether I am able to make this or not, and what my charges. That’s about it. What the amount I have set is final, there is no negotiation after that. I have asked the client, this font is available for purchase to which the client respond, to fulfil the job. Good thing, I have found the font, otherwise I might have to pay for the font.
As @Just-B says the fonts are licensed to who buys them you can transfer the license but that might be a hassle.
Best to let them buy it.
See if it’s me - it’s yes I can buy the font the font is $15, and my time on top of that - 30 minutes + transfer license - then the price is now $45
Or they can just buy it themselves.
You also found the font - which took time - so technically your charge to them could be say $60 (just spitballing the prices)
The same goes with stock images - I tell the client we can search for the images but there’s an extra charge for us, as it takes our time, plus we have to showcase the images to them - all takes time and then get approval for each image.
Usually I just tell the client - this is the stock site we use- pick your images and we’ll download them for the price as per the site.
It then gets added to the final bill - x amount of stock images for $xx
Same goes for anything - you don’t work for free. If a client wants you to find a font, buy a font, transfer a font, and do all the leg work - then you charge for it.
Or tell them they can do it for the sitting charge of the font $15.