Combination Mark vs Emblem Logo

thanks, this is great information,
my situation currently is that I’m working backwards.
I’m not designing from scratch but adapting what the client sends me,
in which I have little control over.

I’m struggling currently with this problem.
before after

the sponsor logos are uploaded first as a color PNG
and then a group filter is applied over all of them afterwards…
I then need to backtrack and identify all the logos with detail loss,
restore the layers, modify them to be filter proof then re-upload them…
but there is just so much variety in complexity,
in the batches I receive…and the time spent ranges from 5min-16hours.
so I can’t give a predictable time estimate…

even the sign companies are giving me a headache,

I am absolutely sure I have no idea what you are doing with these logos and why you are doing it this way.

What do your upload specs say? And what are you or the salespeople doing when something doesn’t come in to spec?

Filter proof? What is a group filter and why?

Any logo that takes more than 20 minutes to convert automatically gets bounced with a note explaining the upcharge you will be sending them if they can’t provide proper artwork. Oh, they are sponsors? No excuse. Your time has to be billable to someone.

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Print Driver:
to be honest, I’m often dealing with none profits,
and I’m starting to think they want that amateur look.
to justify needing donations, and volunteers.
even though they are swimming in cash.

It’s just that I want to transition into for profit,
which is the opposite…a struggling business wants to
to project success, to gain public confidence.
a for profit will run scared if they see a design I made
with horrible logo cut outs, and I might not get a chance to
explain it… I’m hoping it’s a temporary problem.

another issue is we have some massive business names in Canada,
because of the two languages…everything is doubled, and french text tends to be longer, more words and more characters.

example of long business name (2)

so often a logo starts out with
a fun english acronym, entity name, local chapter, parent organization, tag line.
if it’s 20 words in English then it’s 30 words in french. a bilingual logo can push 50 words, plus an image. It’s to much content. It looks fine large…but when shrunken down it turns into a blob. so either I trim it down by removing unnecessary elements,
or leave it as an unreadable blob.

example2

further there are hundreds of possible configurations when your pairing an icon, and two business names…

example of long business name

It;s possible for one entity to have all of these,
one just one…

I feel like we are getting a bit off topic though…
I’m not talking about icon that looks like a badge,
but a badge as a category.

My research indicates that a “badge”
is not just describing what it looks like,
but has some function to it…
It’s intended to fit lots of content into a square,
without worrying about background contrast
at least on the colored version.

I just think it’s just poorly named…
because there is an association with
the physical fashion accessory.
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sonething that looks like a badge,
might not serve the same function.
if it’s monocolored, or with transparency inside.,
while something that does not look like a badge,
like a wide solid rectangle does.

Basically what I am describing is something
that is transparent on the perimeter, but solid inside.
like a label, or sticker,

another reason I ask is because of these awful,
badges with the rounded text.

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so many people send me these, and say can you just grab
the text and make a word mark…but they are not giving me the font or layers,
so that requires isolating and warping it back to flat.

but there is no distinction between a side by side combination,
and multilayered combination.

I’m gonna post this now before I lose it.
It;s a bit of rant sorry, lol