Which one is better?

That’s absolutely fine, you don’t have to be an artist to be a graphic designer. Knowing software and rules can attract the appropriate clients. Corporate design doesn’t have to be artistic. But if your graphic design is artistic, you’re just going to attract artistic clients. Sorry for using the word artistic too many times haha.

Not true. I’ve done graphic design work for art galleries, artists, cartoonists etc., painters and many more.

I possess a skill they don’t have, and they possess a skill I don’t have.

A painter can paint a beautiful landscape in an hour.
It would take me weeks and still would not be right.

I can design a poster for them in an hour where it would take them weeks and still not right.

Horses for courses.

I’ve never brought any artistic vision to design. Usually it’s brand guidelines, colours, fonts, imagery, logos, etc provided.

All that work is done by Branding experts. And many of them hire illustrators, video/photographers, art directors, etc

Then that work is transferred to a graphic designer who tailors it to the artistic vision of what’s handed down to match expectations.

They then work within parameters.

So no, you won’t get to pick indigo for the chocolate colour cos you don’t like brown.

It’s chocolate. That’s the colour.

It’s not really difficult.

In your other post you seem to be interested in getting a job. The job part is decided by the potential employer, not you.

That’s a small challenge there.

Art galleries, artists, cartoonists etc are not graphic designers, so if an artist needs a logo, he’s going to hire a graphic designer, if he needs a poster and doesn’t want the hassle of making one, he’s going to hire a graphic designer. They need your skill to promote their art, while they make their art.
You don’t need artistic vision to make a poster, you just follow the rules and the poster will look balanced. That’s why people go to university and schools, to learn the rules. In your case, the artist is the client, and artists need graphic designers as well. You have to pick the colour brown if your clients like it. I don’t, since I’m currently using graphic design as an art form, if someone likes my work and wants me to design a poster for them, I’ll guide them since that’s my job as a graphic designer. If you don’t choose your clients, then use the colour brown, if you choose your clients because they reflect your artistic vision, then you can tell them about how much you dislike the colour brown and why you don’t use it in your work, if they agree with you, then you got lucky.

Artists have provided me their logo with no clue how to make it work.

You’ll just have to accept a distinction.

Plenty of seasoned pros here telling you the same thing.

If you can’t accept facts then it will be a short career.

They provided you logos because you are a graphic designer, an artist doesn’t have to know how to make a logo, then why should graphic designers exist if not to help those who need a logo. If that’s your opinion of my future career I respect it haha. Again, their experiences doesn’t have to reflect mine and their opinions don’t have to become facts for me to follow because they have been working for a long time.

It’s chocolate.

I’ve worked with branding experts who asked me to use pink cos it’s their favourite colour.

I’ve had this discussion 1000 times.

No… It’s not in your branding.

I’ve used their secondary pallettes to be met with “where did you get those colours”

It’s in your branding.

If you can get through your career without using brown cos you don’t like it … That’s just wow

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I don’t work in branding, if you do good for you. I’m sure someone with an interest in branding would find your advice useful.

You’re just making statements on your own based on what I’ve said. Which is “I think you need to change the colors. It could be the fact that I dislike brown as a color.” It’s not “I’m not going to use the color brown because I don’t like it”. I guess the color brown holds my future haha, all of this started because someone somehow disliked the fact that I don’t like brown or turned my taste in color into a statement, which is quite surprising based on the nature of this forum.

I’m going to get a job because I need money, I’m not going to use the job as an art gallery. When you need money, you use the colour brown and say you think the colour is a good choice for this flyer, that’s where I use graphic design as a craft, just to get paid. But when I’m going to work with a client who hired me because of my “artistic graphic design” work, that’s when I’m going to explain that I dislike the colour brown and hopefully the client has the same taste. It seems it’s so hard for people to accept the concept of artistic freedom in graphic design, but a lot of people make a living out of it, so the client chooses them, they don’t choose the client. Which is very logical and there’s nothing wrong with that. But there’s an option where you choose the client, because they reflect your artistic vision.
I personally don’t think I’m going to provide other arguments because it’s pointless to explain an opinion, at the end you’re not trying to prove a fact. I repeated most of thing I said in multiple replies. I respect everyone’s opinion on the matter, and thank you for this interesting conversation.

Um all design works within branding. All. Even if a company doesn’t have a defined brand or know what their brand is.

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Agreed. It is far more effective to debate with knowledge.

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It’s fine to have your own opinion, but it’s not fine to have your own facts.

Agreed, which I already did. But if a user ignores that part and jumps directly to being subjective about the subject, then there’s no point in debating in the first place. It just becomes a situation of wait I don’t like your opinion because there’s such and such and I graduated from such and such.

It’s also fine to explain this a bit more, where exactly did I have my own facts haha?

Looking good!

The clean design and pops of color really make the Nutella jar stand out. The playful doodles add a fun touch without being too much. Also, great job with the catchy hashtag encouraging social engagement.

Nice one, Priya!

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I am a self learning graphic design student and from the designers I heard it alot of times to practice design and make stuff whatever you can, so I just thought to make a poster of nutella and I had no brief about this. I just wanted to know can we put these strokes on a poster to create something unique and by including the bread with nutella over it to make it look engaging.

OK. Thank you for the explanation.

Most graphic design involves addressing and solving client problems. Briefs identify and define those problems and spell out other relevant information designers must consider as they design their solutions.

Making the designs artistically or aesthetically interesting is simply one of the many factors to consider in the design solution. Aesthetic considerations are important since people are drawn to good-looking design solutions. However, it’s important to remember that making a good-looking design is not the primary objective. Instead, solving the problem at hand is the objective. Ensuring the design also looks good is only one aspect to consider.

It’s impossible to judge the success of a design solution without articulating what problem it is meant to address. Simply making a nice-looking composition using visual elements related to Nutella isn’t enough. You need to also define how this design addresses the problem at hand. To do this, you must first define the problem the visual design is intended to solve.

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I’m splitting this off so it doesn’t get confusing :wink:

From @priya. This blurb was referring to this posting. The rest has it’s own thread now. :slight_smile:

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